Real Science Friday: Blue Planet & Butterfly, Peacocks, Crows & Cows

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RSF: Blue Planet & Butterfly, Peacocks, Crows & Cows

This is the show from Friday May 8th, 2009.

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* Earth is in a Special Place: Bob Enyart and Real Science Friday co-host Fred Williams discuss Creation Ministries International's Creation magazine article (News and Views) highlighting increasing evidence that, contrary to Big Bang predictions, the Earth is in a special place in the universe. RSF has previously recommended listeners do a Google search of quantized redshift to familiarize the reader with the body of evidence regarding galactic redshift indicating the Earth is near the center of the universe. Now, a leading cosmologist from South Africa along with colleagues and a French astrophysicist provide evidence from supernovae that the Earth is in a special place!

* Cow Magnets and Butterfly Photonics: God is so cool! Brilliantly blue butterflies have no blue pigment, but instead manipulate light waves via their photonic structures with grids of groove widths that are one-half and one-fifth of a millionth of a meter wide. Cows and deer align themselves mostly in the north-south direction, showing they are among the many creatures that can sense the Earth's magnetic field. Famous evolutionist J.BN.S. Haldane said that evolution could never produce mechanisms such as wheels and magnets that would be useless until fairly perfect. Of course he was right, and such mechanisms commonly exist in the microbiological world, showing that migrating birds, cows, deer, and countless other species were carefully designed by our Creator!

* Peacocks and Apes Further Disprove Darwin: Discussing CMI's March 2009 Creation magazine, Bob and Fred discuss Charles Darwin being wrong again, this time about Peacocks. A seven-year Japanese study of 268 peacock matings undermined Darwin's sexual selection claims when the females surprised the researchers and did not fulfill their Darwinian preferences. And it turns out that crows demonstrated greater problem-solving ability than chimps, mankind's supposed closest "relatives." Oops!

* Today's Resource: Have you browsed through our Science Department in the KGOV Store? Check out Guillermo Gonzalez' Privileged Planet (clip), Illustra Media's Unlocking the Mystery of Life ([url=http://www.kgovstore.com/resources/umol.mov]clip)! You can consider our BEL Science Pack; Bob Enyart's Age of the Earth Debate; Walt Brown's In the Beginning and Bob's interviews with this great scientist in Walt Brown Week; the superb kids' radio programming, Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins! And Bob strongly recommends that you subscribe to CMI's tremendous Creation magazine!
 

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"Big Bang predictions"?:doh:

Is Enyart (or his listeners) unfamiliar with the Rare Earth Hypothesis?

I really don't know why Enyart insists on talking about evolution. This is simply a subject he doesn't understand terribly well.
 

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13.7 billion years of evolution - and this is the end result?

Well, that was a lot of trouble for nothing.
 

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I guess we are supposed to conclude that the fact that out of billions of gallaxies the evidence that our Milky Way galaxy is at the very center of the universe is just a coincidence. Talk about a blind leap of faith.
 

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RSF: Blue Planet & Butterfly, Peacocks, Crows & Cows

This is the show from Friday May 8th, 2009.

SUMMARY:

* Earth is in a Special Place: Bob Enyart and Real Science Friday co-host Fred Williams discuss Creation Ministries International's Creation magazine article (News and Views) highlighting increasing evidence that, contrary to Big Bang predictions, the Earth is in a special place in the universe. RSF has previously recommended listeners do a Google search of quantized redshift to familiarize the reader with the body of evidence regarding galactic redshift indicating the Earth is near the center of the universe. Now, a leading cosmologist from South Africa along with colleagues and a French astrophysicist provide evidence from supernovae that the Earth is in a special place!

I like how in the link to a Google search for the terms "quantized redshift", two out of the first three links are to the Bad Astronomy site where the geocentric concept gets a solid trashing on their forums.

The supernovae evidence link, by the way, only goes to a brief intro for a pop sci piece in the New Scientist. The rest of the piece is New Scientist subscribers only.
 

Jukia

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I guess we are supposed to conclude that the fact that out of billions of gallaxies the evidence that our Milky Way galaxy is at the very center of the universe is just a coincidence. Talk about a blind leap of faith.

Well, since as Flipper's post points out, the evidence suggests that the "center of the universe" statement is more than a bit questionable, I think what we are really supposed to conclude is that if Pastor Bob and Fred make the claim it is true.

Given their track record of misunderstanding and misrepresenting, that is clearly an even bigger leap of faith.
 

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"Big Bang predictions"?:doh:

Is Enyart (or his listeners) unfamiliar with the Rare Earth Hypothesis?

I really don't know why Enyart insists on talking about evolution. This is simply a subject he doesn't understand terribly well.

And for the billionth time, why don't you call into the show and correct him. Would make for an interesting call, no?
 

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And for the billionth time, why don't you call into the show and correct him. Would make for an interesting call, no?

Among other reasons, we both know that'd be a complete waste of time. Enyart's not going to change his mind and I certainly won't change mine. How about you call into Air America?
 

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And for the billionth time, why don't you call into the show and correct him. Would make for an interesting call, no?

See Granite's response.
Plus, it is easy when you are in Pastor Bob's chair to simply start listing issues which are as yet unresolved and ask "Well, what about that..."
The good Pastor can then take the position that it is something unexplained by science (although somehow he will call it evolution) and therefore his Biblical answer is worth more.
 

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Either that or he'll ignore what you say, talk over you, and repeat in a drone: "You hate God."
 

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Among other reasons, we both know that'd be a complete waste of time. Enyart's not going to change his mind and I certainly won't change mine. How about you call into Air America?

Your only goal is to change Enyart's mind?
Of course Bob's goal is to change the mind of the person he is debating. I believe that he debates most people knowing he probably won't change their mind. He uses the debate as a great opportunity for him to educate and hopefully change the mind of the listeners.

If you debated Bob, you could do the same.



Either that or he'll ignore what you say, talk over you, and repeat in a drone: "You hate God."

Bob generally interrupts people if they won't stay on topic, won't answer a question or they say something absurd like "The sun is not a light". Avoid these things and you shouldn't have a problem.
 

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Every day the atheist's god (science) tells them the God of the Bible is the true God. It's so much fun to watch.
 
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