Real Science Friday: Bacteria Smarter than Fish

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RSF: Bacteria Smarter than Fish

This is the show from Friday December 2nd, 2011.

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It is not the chemistry of the ink on the page that determines the information. And it is ludicrous, it’s an intellectual tantrum to suggest that it does. It’s amazing because I’ve debated evolutionists on this and they will insist that information has mass, that it weighs something, that it’s made of matter. That is so juvenile. They’re afraid to acknowledge that there’s something other than the material universe. Because as soon as they acknowledge that information is not made of matter, then we realize there’s something that is not physical. And if there’s something that’s not physical, well we have a term for that, we tend to call it “spiritual.” Just like if there’s something that’s not natural, like a rock, then we tend to call that supernatural. So if the universe cannot make itself, it must have had a supernatural origin. And if information is not physical, then it must be spiritual. And it turns out that God is the One who designed the information content in the DNA of, not only human beings, but all living species.

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* Fossils, Bacteria, Life based on Information: Real Science Friday co-hosts Fred Williams and Bob Enyart discuss whale fossiles in Chile, jellyfish fossils in Minnesota and dinosaurs in Mongolia and how they were deposited by a water catastrophe. Bacteria have amazing abilities to work together to find food. Scientists invent the lightest material on earth. A listener asks Bob to explain more on how life is information based as opposed to carbon based as was discussed in the AronRa debate!

* Fossil Graveyards: A new find of whale fossils in Chile leads scientists to theorize that they may have been buried is their mass grave by an earthquake or a storm. Is this a viable theory or is there an alternate theory of this mass burial? Consider jellyfish fossils in Minnesota, dinosaurs in Mongolia petrified forests and the evidence for a water catastrophe.

* Bacteria's Amazing Abilities: Professor Eshel Ben-Jacob of Tel Avede University in his Microbes Mind Forum found that bacteria are amazingly efficient at finding the best path towards food, work together to avoid harm and swarm together like fish.

* Lightest Material on Earth: Scientists invent the lightest material on Earth. What happens when we look at the microscopic world man makes as compared to the microscopic world of God's design?

* Life is Information Based: Is what you are reading on this page determined by the structure of the pixels and the electronics or is it the information imbedded within? Just as the ink on a written page has no information to determine a design, carbon doesn't determine the design of life. It is the information inherent in the genetic code which defines the lthe life of an organism.

* Bob & Fred Suggest the BEL Science Store: If you enjoy the science you hear about on our fast-paced RSF radio shows, you'll really love the books, audio, and DVD science materials in our online store's Science Department! The KGOV September Telethon is 9% toward it's goal of $20,000 in donations and purchases from our store, and $20 per month pledges! So, please help keep RSF airing and online for another year by shopping in the KGOV Store, getting a BEL monthly subscription, making a one-time donation or a monthly pledge to RSF and Bob Enyart Live!




Today’s Resource: Have you browsed through our Science Department in our online store? Check out especially Walt Brown’s In the Beginning and Bob’s interviews with this great scientist in Walt Brown Week! You’ll also love Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez’ Privileged Planet (clip), and Illustra Media’s Unlocking the Mystery of Life (clip)! You can consider our BEL Science Pack; Bob Enyart’s Age of the Earth Debate; Bob's creation/evolution debate that hits on Junk DNA with famous evolutionist Dr. Eugenie Scott (see description below); and the superb kids' radio program Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins!

Eugenie Flubs Genetics Prediction, Bob Hits the Bull's-Eye: Eugenie Scott offered the "evidence" for evolution of Junk DNA. This scientist, from her Darwinist worldview, made a philosophical argument that a Creator would not fill our DNA with mostly junk. (Unlike the relatively few gene segments that code for the 20,000 proteins in the human body, the widespread evolutionary claim of the 1990s was that the rest of the genome had no function and so was called Junk DNA.) Bob, the Christian fundamentalist, answered from his biblical worldview, that our knowledge of genetics was in its infancy, and that it was too early to make the determination that all those non-coding segments of DNA had no function. The next decade of explosive genetic discoveries overwhelmingly validated this creationist perspective, so much so that aside from coding for 20,000 proteins, it is estimated that the remainder of the genome has approximately one million other functional regulatory segments of DNA. So much for junk. Fulfilled predictions, as the world saw with Einstein, go toward scientific credibility. However, Dr. Scott strongly rejected this creationist prediction making an extraordinary claim, which Bob immediately offered her to retract, that scientists currently knew everything they would ever need to know about genetics to conclusively state that all those regions were useless junk. Bob would love a rematch. But Eugenie Scott, (Ph.D. in Physical Anthropology, leading anti-creationist, and director of the National Center for Science Education), who had just debated evolution on a nationwide PBS television program, ended this one-hour program with Bob stating, "Well, I don’t debate."
 
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Bacteria may be smarter than fish based on this evidence. Because something is bigger supposedly more sophisticated doesn't mean it is smarter.

Information isn't matter and it isn't physical. You can't hold information in your hand. It isn't something that is tangible. Bottom line, information comes from a Mind. There is an Intelligence behind the fabric of the universe. That intelligence is the LORD Jesus Christ.
 

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Is beauty physical? It's an abstract property of physical objects, just like information. What about ugly? Is that physical? Is Jesus responsible for ugly?
 

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Interesting.....an organism without a brain is more intelligent than an organism with a brain?!!!

OK.....where's that evolution guy who told me I should go take some college courses on evolution.... :comeout:
 
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