A Creationist Interviews Lawrence Krauss
This is the show from Friday, September 21st, 2012.
SUMMARY:
* Real Science Friday has a Far Ranging Conversation with Krauss: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams present Bob's interview of theoretical physicist (emphasis on the theoretical), atheist Lawrence Krauss. Fred says, "It's David vs. Goliath, but without the slingshot." As the discussion ranges from astronomy and anatomy to cosmology and physics, most folks would presume that Dr. Krauss would take apart Enyart's arguments, especially when the Bible believer got the wrong value for the electron-to-proton mass ratio. But the conservation reveals fascinating dynamics from the creation/evolution debate.
* Krauss "Suprised" by Friend Eugenie Scott's Junk DNA Claim: Even though Eugenie made the same argument that thousands of evolutionists have made for decades, Lawrence Krauss agrees that she was wrong to tell Bob Enyart in 1998 that the we knew for sure that pseudogenes (aka Junk DNA) had no function (and were therefore evidence against intelligent design). Virtually all leading evolutionists validate the ID concept, except that they use the argument in reverse, and poorly, claiming that what they assess as poor design is evidence against a Creator. (Next week RSF will air four minutes of the Enyart/Eugenie disagreement over junk DNA as the guys discuss the landmark Nature study reporting on 440 genetic researchers who so far have identified function in 80% of the human genome!)
For today's show RSF recommends
the best astronomy science DVD ever made!
What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy:
Our Created Solar System!
* Krauss Denies, then Remembers: RSF continues to document the quirk of evolutionists who pretend during debates with creationists that they've never heard certain common terms. Krauss adds to our list. From the last round of the RSF debate with AronRa, Ra asked, What's an evolutionist? and What's Neo-Darwinism?; Eugenie Scott couldn't figure out what I could possibly be referring to when I asked her to provide 'evidence' for evolution, and when I quoted a leading evolutionist on 'problems' for evolution, she even asked, What's a 'problem'? Krauss however set a record for not recognizing the most common terms in the least amount of time. RSF is considering keeping our Webster's Desktop Reference handy for any possible future interviews with Lawrence. While talking to Bob Enyart, Krauss asks, often incredulously, as though he had never heard of such things:
- "What's a person?"
- "What's an atheist?"
- "What's an evolutionist?"
- "What's Darwinism?"
- He never heard of the "multiverse" proposed as an answer the fine-tuning problem [he had never heard of it, until he later remembered it]
- He never heard of scientists proposing that aliens might have seeded life on Earth [even though it's been discussed for a half century starting with the co-discoverer of DNA to very recently when his friend Richard Dawkins suggested it in Ben Stein's movie Expelled.]
* Krauss Claims that Scientists Don't "Believe" Anything: Krauss contradicts his claim that he doesn't "believe" anything by acknowledging that he does believe in the existence of the cosmos. Likewise, while claiming that science doesn't have beliefs, but rather, it falsifies claims, Krauss doesn't realize that disproving a theory creates a new positive assetion. (Krauss' fellow atheist AronRa also makes this kind of error. Regarding the philosophical claim that the universe has no center, AronRa could not get himself to realize that such a claim is a positive assertion.) Atheists increasingly are uncomfortable with information per se, with mind, with the validity of the laws of logic, and even with truth itself. Thus atheists find a confused kind of comfort in claiming that they don't believe things, they just falsify ideas. Come to think of it though, they're even uncomfortable with the very existence of "ideas", since ideas themselves are not made of matter. (See realscienceFriday.com/math#Einstein.)
* Krauss Never Heard of Multiverse Solution to Fine-Tuning Problem; Then Proposes It: The finely tuned parameters of the universe include:
- the electron to proton ratio with a standard deviation of 1 in 10 to the 37th
- the electron to proton mass ration
- the gravitational force constant
- the electromagnetic force constant
- the electromagnetic force in the right ratio to the nuclear force, and
- the ratio of the number of electrons to protons, etc.
So it is claimed that the Anthropic Principle answers why the extraordinarily unlikely precise values of these ratios exist, including the one in 10,000 decillion odds against us having a virtually perfect one-to-one electron-to-proton ratio. And for human life on Earth to exist, additional finely tuned parameters include:
- the Earth's nearly circular orbit
- the Earth-moon relationship
- our (rapidly decaying) magnetic field
- the just-right ozone layer
- the Earth's spin rate
- the water cycle
- the atmospheric pressure
- the liquid water that exists because the Earth is just the right distance from the Sun, etc.
But atheists are content to say that the Anthropic Principle explains all this, which is as satisfying, as Bob said to Lawrence, as a doctor saying, "The reason that your father is deaf is because he can't hear.
Today’s Resources: Get the Spike Psarris DVD What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy and Vol. II, Our Created Stars and Galaxies! Have you browsed through our Science Department in the KGOV Store? Check out especially Walt Brown’s In the Beginning and Bob’s interviews with this great scientist in Walt Brown Week! You’ll also love Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez’ Privileged Planet (clip), and Illustra Media’s Unlocking the Mystery of Life (clip)! You can consider our BEL Science Pack; Bob Enyart’s Age of the Earth Debate; Bob's debate about Junk DNA with famous evolutionist Dr. Eugenie Scott; and the superb kids' radio programming, Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins! And Bob strongly recommends that you subscribe to CMI’s tremendous Creation magazine!
This is the show from Friday, September 21st, 2012.
SUMMARY:
* Real Science Friday has a Far Ranging Conversation with Krauss: Co-hosts Bob Enyart and Fred Williams present Bob's interview of theoretical physicist (emphasis on the theoretical), atheist Lawrence Krauss. Fred says, "It's David vs. Goliath, but without the slingshot." As the discussion ranges from astronomy and anatomy to cosmology and physics, most folks would presume that Dr. Krauss would take apart Enyart's arguments, especially when the Bible believer got the wrong value for the electron-to-proton mass ratio. But the conservation reveals fascinating dynamics from the creation/evolution debate.
* Krauss "Suprised" by Friend Eugenie Scott's Junk DNA Claim: Even though Eugenie made the same argument that thousands of evolutionists have made for decades, Lawrence Krauss agrees that she was wrong to tell Bob Enyart in 1998 that the we knew for sure that pseudogenes (aka Junk DNA) had no function (and were therefore evidence against intelligent design). Virtually all leading evolutionists validate the ID concept, except that they use the argument in reverse, and poorly, claiming that what they assess as poor design is evidence against a Creator. (Next week RSF will air four minutes of the Enyart/Eugenie disagreement over junk DNA as the guys discuss the landmark Nature study reporting on 440 genetic researchers who so far have identified function in 80% of the human genome!)
For today's show RSF recommends
the best astronomy science DVD ever made!
What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy:
Our Created Solar System!
* Krauss Denies, then Remembers: RSF continues to document the quirk of evolutionists who pretend during debates with creationists that they've never heard certain common terms. Krauss adds to our list. From the last round of the RSF debate with AronRa, Ra asked, What's an evolutionist? and What's Neo-Darwinism?; Eugenie Scott couldn't figure out what I could possibly be referring to when I asked her to provide 'evidence' for evolution, and when I quoted a leading evolutionist on 'problems' for evolution, she even asked, What's a 'problem'? Krauss however set a record for not recognizing the most common terms in the least amount of time. RSF is considering keeping our Webster's Desktop Reference handy for any possible future interviews with Lawrence. While talking to Bob Enyart, Krauss asks, often incredulously, as though he had never heard of such things:
- "What's a person?"
- "What's an atheist?"
- "What's an evolutionist?"
- "What's Darwinism?"
- He never heard of the "multiverse" proposed as an answer the fine-tuning problem [he had never heard of it, until he later remembered it]
- He never heard of scientists proposing that aliens might have seeded life on Earth [even though it's been discussed for a half century starting with the co-discoverer of DNA to very recently when his friend Richard Dawkins suggested it in Ben Stein's movie Expelled.]
* Krauss Claims that Scientists Don't "Believe" Anything: Krauss contradicts his claim that he doesn't "believe" anything by acknowledging that he does believe in the existence of the cosmos. Likewise, while claiming that science doesn't have beliefs, but rather, it falsifies claims, Krauss doesn't realize that disproving a theory creates a new positive assetion. (Krauss' fellow atheist AronRa also makes this kind of error. Regarding the philosophical claim that the universe has no center, AronRa could not get himself to realize that such a claim is a positive assertion.) Atheists increasingly are uncomfortable with information per se, with mind, with the validity of the laws of logic, and even with truth itself. Thus atheists find a confused kind of comfort in claiming that they don't believe things, they just falsify ideas. Come to think of it though, they're even uncomfortable with the very existence of "ideas", since ideas themselves are not made of matter. (See realscienceFriday.com/math#Einstein.)
* Krauss Never Heard of Multiverse Solution to Fine-Tuning Problem; Then Proposes It: The finely tuned parameters of the universe include:
- the electron to proton ratio with a standard deviation of 1 in 10 to the 37th
- the electron to proton mass ration
- the gravitational force constant
- the electromagnetic force constant
- the electromagnetic force in the right ratio to the nuclear force, and
- the ratio of the number of electrons to protons, etc.
So it is claimed that the Anthropic Principle answers why the extraordinarily unlikely precise values of these ratios exist, including the one in 10,000 decillion odds against us having a virtually perfect one-to-one electron-to-proton ratio. And for human life on Earth to exist, additional finely tuned parameters include:
- the Earth's nearly circular orbit
- the Earth-moon relationship
- our (rapidly decaying) magnetic field
- the just-right ozone layer
- the Earth's spin rate
- the water cycle
- the atmospheric pressure
- the liquid water that exists because the Earth is just the right distance from the Sun, etc.
But atheists are content to say that the Anthropic Principle explains all this, which is as satisfying, as Bob said to Lawrence, as a doctor saying, "The reason that your father is deaf is because he can't hear.
Today’s Resources: Get the Spike Psarris DVD What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy and Vol. II, Our Created Stars and Galaxies! Have you browsed through our Science Department in the KGOV Store? Check out especially Walt Brown’s In the Beginning and Bob’s interviews with this great scientist in Walt Brown Week! You’ll also love Dr. Guillermo Gonzalez’ Privileged Planet (clip), and Illustra Media’s Unlocking the Mystery of Life (clip)! You can consider our BEL Science Pack; Bob Enyart’s Age of the Earth Debate; Bob's debate about Junk DNA with famous evolutionist Dr. Eugenie Scott; and the superb kids' radio programming, Jonathan Park: The Adventure Begins! And Bob strongly recommends that you subscribe to CMI’s tremendous Creation magazine!
