Neither Jew nor Greek....

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In Galatians, Paul tells us this:
Gal 3:26-28 KJV For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (27) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. (28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
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And yet when Jesus Christ was on earth, He clearly kept them separate. So when did this distinction end?

Make sure to take into account Acts 6, where they were all Jews except for one proselyte.
Act 6:5 KJV And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:
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Right Divider said:
In Galatians, Paul tells us this:
Gal 3:26-28 KJV For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (27) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. (28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
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And yet when Jesus Christ was on earth, He clearly kept them separate. So when did this distinction end?

Make sure to take into account Acts 6, where they were all Jews except for one proselyte.
Act 6:5 KJV And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:
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Right Divider said:
In Galatians, Paul tells us this:
Gal 3:26-28 KJV For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (27) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. (28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
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And yet when Jesus Christ was on earth, He clearly kept them separate. So when did this distinction end?

Make sure to take into account Acts 6, where they were all Jews except for one proselyte.
Act 6:5 KJV And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:
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It was only in the Body of Christ/those who had been baptized into Christ as in 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJV, that there was no distinction for we see at that time of Acts 20 the Jew still had the advantage (Acts 3:1-2 KJV). We see Paul going to the Jew first all the way through the Acts provoking ministry (Romans 1:16 KJV, Romans 11:14 KJV). So we must see that the point of the Galatians passages above is that in the Body ("in Christ Jesus") "there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus". It is only through the preaching of Paul that we see the distinction ending. By the second sending, that no distinction would include "all men" (Titus 2:11 KJV, 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV) even us (Ephesians 2:11-12 KJV). :)
 
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Right Divider said:
In Galatians, Paul tells us this:
Gal 3:26-28 KJV For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (27) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. (28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
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And yet when Jesus Christ was on earth, He clearly kept them separate. So when did this distinction end?
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When He was crucified.


Joh 12:31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
Joh 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
Joh 12:33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.
Joh 12:34 The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? who is this Son of man?
Joh 12:35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.
Joh 12:36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them.
Joh 12:37 But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:
 
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heir said:
It was only in the Body of Christ/those who had been baptized into Christ as in 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJV, that there was no distinction for we see at that time of Acts 20 the Jew still had the advantage (Acts 3:1-2 KJV). We see Paul going to the Jew first all the way through the Acts provoking ministry (Romans 1:16 KJV, Romans 11:14 KJV). So we must see that the point of the Galatians passages above is that in the Body ("in Christ Jesus") "there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus". It is only through the preaching of Paul that we see the distinction ending. By the second sending, there would be no distinction for "all men" (1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV) even us (Ephesians 2:11-12 KJV). :)
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So you are saying Jesus left His own disciples, Apostles and Prophets out of His Body.

Ridiculous.

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Lazy afternoon said:
So you are saying Jesus left His own disciples, Apostles and Prophets out of His Body.

Ridiculous.

LA
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It is only in the Body of Christ that the playing field is level/no distinction. Outside of the Body and true of Israel past and future is this:

Exodus 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

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Isaiah 61:6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.
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1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

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3 John 1:7 Because that for his name's sake they went forth, taking nothing of the Gentiles.
 
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heir said:
It was only in the Body of Christ/those who had been baptized into Christ as in 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJV, that there was no distinction for we see at that time of Acts 20 the Jew still had the advantage (Acts 3:1-2 KJV). We see Paul going to the Jew first all the way through the Acts provoking ministry (Romans 1:16 KJV, Romans 11:14 KJV). So we must see that the point of the Galatians passages above is that in the Body ("in Christ Jesus") "there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus". It is only through the preaching of Paul that we see the distinction ending. By the second sending, that no distinction would include "all men" (Titus 2:11 KJV, 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV) even us (Ephesians 2:11-12 KJV). :)
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It says the tribes were divided and spread to all lands and countries. This is indicative of the different faiths around the world. They will all unite through Christ under GOD. This is a sign of the second coming of Christ and is a reference to all following the way of Christ based on what is universally placed on the hearts of those who have faith and adhere to the commandment of GOD.
 
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If you believed the Lord Jesus is God, and if you believed the gospel, perhaps you would have the ability to see that there is more than one inheritance in the Holy Bible for the believers.
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If you were a true Christian then you might know the truth that Christ began the restoration of Israel by choosing His future rulers over Israel beginning with the 120 and 3000.

What a joke that you Madists try to covert JWs to your system which is far worse than theirs.

At least they are trying to be honest.

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Lazy afternoon said:
If you were a true Christian then you might know the truth that Christ began the restoration of Israel by choosing His future rulers over Israel beginning with the 120 and 3000.
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Being the completely brain-dead unbeliever that you are, you don't even realize that this IS what MAD teaches.

You're fighting an imaginary enemy. Gee.... I hope you win.

Lazy afternoon said:
What a joke that you Madists try to covert JWs to your system which is far worse than theirs.

At least they are trying to be honest.

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LOL, they are NOT honest in the slightest. Just like you.
 
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What is the context?

Is Paul saying all differences in gender and freedom and Jewishness no longer exist?

If Paul is teaching that and he isn't, the heir is a man and pj is a slave?

Come on kids!!!

Paul is teaching that
WHEN A PERSON COMES TO FAITH IN CHRIST IT DOES NOT CHANGE NOT IF MALE OR FEMALE, JEW OR GEEK, MASTER OR GLORYDAZE.

Think about this. You're practicing eisegesis. You are reading into this passage something Paul is not saying at all. Pathetic
 
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Being the completely brain-dead unbeliever that you are, you don't even realize that this IS what MAD teaches.

You're fighting an imaginary enemy. Gee.... I hope you win.


LOL, they are NOT honest in the slightest. Just like you.
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Mad teaches there are two gospels and that the early church is not in the one Paul taught--

and that the early church is not in the body of Christ.

Be honest now and admit it, or be damned--

Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1Jn 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
1Jn 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.


Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Act 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

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Col 3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond[doulos] nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

If this is the case, then, why bond/servants/doulos in the following verses?


Col 3:22 Servants[doulos], obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
Col 4:1 Masters, give unto your servants[doulos] that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven.
 
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steko said:
Col 3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond[doulos] nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

If this is the case, then, why bond/servants/doulos in the following verses?


Col 3:22 Servants[doulos], obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
Col 4:1 Masters, give unto your servants[doulos] that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven.
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Because even when the first verses are true, still there remains bondservants and different folk
 
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