Left vs conservative definitive lines

[Interplanner]

Based on news this week, I conclude:
when a Leftist is flagrantly illegal, it is the one thing the media won't talk about. When a conservative is flagrantly illegal, it is the only thing the media will talk about.

2, the Left is all about feeling good, or IOW, saying and hearing things that feel good. It feels good to take in immigrants. A conservative is all about things that actually work.

 

[aikido7]

Conservatives draw lines between things that need to be separated--like sin and righteousness.

Liberals tear down barriers that should never have been erected in the first place--like the line of racism between blacks and whites.

 

[glorydaz]

The liberal will suffer a rooster to make life miserable for all the other chickens, and the conservative will shoot him and cook him up with dumplings.

 

[patrick jane]

The liberal will suffer a rooster to make life miserable for all the other chickens, and the conservative will shoot him and cook him up with dumplings.

Did you make that up all on your own ? :vomit:

 

[quip]

Based on news this week, I conclude:
when a Leftist is flagrantly illegal, it is the one thing the media won't talk about. When a conservative is flagrantly illegal, it is the only thing the media will talk about.

That's because righties are the only ones with a moral compass and hypocrisy makes for good news. Right?

 

[The Horn]

Conservatives claim to want "smaller government " and "limited government " but they really want the government in everybody's bedroom and in women's reproductive organs .
They want "religious freedom " but only if you're a Christian, preferably of the same denomination .
They say "All men are created equal ", EXCEPT FOR HOMOSEXUALS .
Conservatives are horrified about abortion, and whine endlessly about "the right to life" and "the sanctity of life", yet once a fetus is born,
it's "You're on your own, kid ." They don't want the government to provide decent food, shelter, medical care and education to babies once born and as they grow up, because this would be "socialism", which will supposedly lead inevitably to communism .
Liberals believe that the government MUST do everything it can to help people in need , or this will be catastrophic to society .
Liberals are accused of being "pro-abortion ", and supposedly being happy about abortion, which is ludicrous . Liberals want to PREVENT as many abortions as possible, but they realize that trying to stop abortion by making it illegal is like trying to stop a forest fire by pouring gasoline on it .
Liberals believe that what consenting adults do in private as long as they do not harm anyone else is no business of the government, the courts or the police .
Liberals aren't opposed to Christianity ; they just don't want Christians and Christianity getting power and violating the rights of NON-CHRISTIANS . They don't care what religion people follow as long as they mind their own business and keep their faith to themselves .

 

[aikido7]

My simple, un-critical self often accepts the lie that the line between conservative and liberal is strong and not bothered when it is in my own mind.

But reality is my best teacher and my hardest taskmaster. No one--not a one of us--is EVER all one thing! That's not how God's creation works!

 

[MarcATL]

Conservatives claim to want "smaller government " and "limited government " but they really want the government in everybody's bedroom and in women's reproductive organs .
They want "religious freedom " but only if you're a Christian, preferably of the same denomination .
They say "All men are created equal ", EXCEPT FOR HOMOSEXUALS .
Conservatives are horrified about abortion, and whine endlessly about "the right to life" and "the sanctity of life", yet once a fetus is born,
it's "You're on your own, kid ." They don't want the government to provide decent food, shelter, medical care and education to babies once born and as they grow up, because this would be "socialism", which will supposedly lead inevitably to communism .
Liberals believe that the government MUST do everything it can to help people in need , or this will be catastrophic to society .
Liberals are accused of being "pro-abortion ", and supposedly being happy about abortion, which is ludicrous . Liberals want to PREVENT as many abortions as possible, but they realize that trying to stop abortion by making it illegal is like trying to stop a forest fire by pouring gasoline on it .
Liberals believe that what consenting adults do in private as long as they do not harm anyone else is no business of the government, the courts or the police .
Liberals aren't opposed to Christianity ; they just don't want Christians and Christianity getting power and violating the rights of NON-CHRISTIANS . They don't care what religion people follow as long as they mind their own business and keep their faith to themselves .

This seems about right.

 

[aikido7]

Conservatives claim to want "smaller government " and "limited government " but they really want the government in everybody's bedroom and in women's reproductive organs .
They want "religious freedom " but only if you're a Christian, preferably of the same denomination .
They say "All men are created equal ", EXCEPT FOR HOMOSEXUALS .
Conservatives are horrified about abortion, and whine endlessly about "the right to life" and "the sanctity of life", yet once a fetus is born,
it's "You're on your own, kid ." They don't want the government to provide decent food, shelter, medical care and education to babies once born and as they grow up, because this would be "socialism", which will supposedly lead inevitably to communism .
Liberals believe that the government MUST do everything it can to help people in need , or this will be catastrophic to society .
Liberals are accused of being "pro-abortion ", and supposedly being happy about abortion, which is ludicrous . Liberals want to PREVENT as many abortions as possible, but they realize that trying to stop abortion by making it illegal is like trying to stop a forest fire by pouring gasoline on it .
Liberals believe that what consenting adults do in private as long as they do not harm anyone else is no business of the government, the courts or the police .
Liberals aren't opposed to Christianity ; they just don't want Christians and Christianity getting power and violating the rights of NON-CHRISTIANS . They don't care what religion people follow as long as they mind their own business and keep their faith to themselves .

Things are never black or white.

All of us have hypocrisies.

 

[Interplanner]

One of the features of liberalism is to dwell on deterministic status--race, gender, sometimes class, "orientation." They do this because in their overall system, there is no ethical or values basis for behavior that is absolute.

I can't even begin to count the number of times that the answer about an ethical situation or even about a news situation from a liberal is that 'you can't accept what that person does because he's _____.' Ie, the determinist background they project onto the situation trumps everything. Many times they will say 'we don't even read (name of author/speaker) or listen to him.' Which is dishonest.

30 years ago the Canadian musician Cochburn recorded "Maybe the Poet." The point he was trying to make in the lyrics was that people should be the opposite of what I just described. The "poet" might be a woman, a prophet, a homosexual, etc., but it is what he says, not who he is, that should be assessed. Spot on. But I don't see anywhere where liberalism does that.

At USC this year, you cannot say 'we are one human race' because that is anti-multi-cultural. Isn't it said to 'overcome' racism? Yet someone has found that it violates something deeper in liberalism; it violates determinism. So the protection of determinism trumps racism!

 

[aikido7]

One of the features of liberalism is to dwell on deterministic status--race, gender, sometimes class, "orientation." They do this because in their overall system, there is no ethical or values basis for behavior that is absolute.

I can't even begin to count the number of times that the answer about an ethical situation or even about a news situation from a liberal is that 'you can't accept what that person does because he's _____.' Ie, the determinist background they project onto the situation trumps everything. Many times they will say 'we don't even read (name of author/speaker) or listen to him.' Which is dishonest.

30 years ago the Canadian musician Cochburn recorded "Maybe the Poet." The point he was trying to make in the lyrics was that people should be the opposite of what I just described. The "poet" might be a woman, a prophet, a homosexual, etc., but it is what he says, not who he is, that should be assessed. Spot on. But I don't see anywhere where liberalism does that.

At USC this year, you cannot say 'we are one human race' because that is anti-multi-cultural. Isn't it said to 'overcome' racism? Yet someone has found that it violates something deeper in liberalism; it violates determinism. So the protection of determinism trumps racism!

As long as there are human beings around, the notion of "absolute truth" has to be provisional.

Even the "absolute truth" of God has to be known in human interpretation. The gospels are interpretations, as are the many versions and translations of the Bible in a Christian bookstore.

We are fated to be human beings.

 

[aikido7]

30 years ago the Canadian musician Cochburn recorded "Maybe the Poet." The point he was trying to make in the lyrics was that people should be the opposite of what I just described. The "poet" might be a woman, a prophet, a homosexual, etc., but it is what he says, not who he is, that should be assessed. Spot on. But I don't see anywhere where liberalism does that.

How does your opinion and interpretation fit with the Christian idea of "loving the sinner, hating the sin?"

It's who we are before our Creator that is important, isn't it?
Not what we say or are clothed in, but what is in our hearts?

Maybe I have missed your point entirely....

 

[aikido7]

At USC this year, you cannot say 'we are one human race' because that is anti-multi-cultural. Isn't it said to 'overcome' racism? Yet someone has found that it violates something deeper in liberalism; it violates determinism. So the protection of determinism trumps racism!

I will continue to say what I want to say, as will, I believe, you will as well.

The judgments and evaluations of others regarding ourselves need to be seriously considered, of course.

But anytime anyone tries to burn beliefs or books--whether actually or metaphorically--we should stand up tall in front of them.

I don't like bullies, especially theological or political bullies.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Conservatives claim to want "smaller government " and "limited government " but they really want the government in everybody's bedroom and in women's reproductive organs .

If that is so, then why are the gays demanding their bedroom be celebrated at christian businesses and demand that christian photographers peer into them?

 

[quip]

If that is so, then why are the gays demanding their bedroom be celebrated at christian businesses and demand that christian photographers peer into them?

Because opened eyes make way for an open mind.

 

[bybee]

Because opened eyes make way for an open mind.

Unseemly behavior in public is protected. The right to not participate is not?
A mind wide open may be filled with all sorts of unwanted things.
A disciplined mind may pick and choose that which is useful for getting on in society.
The open mind requirement ought to apply to all of us.

 

[The Horn]

Angel4truth , you're just setting up a straw man here . Gay people aren't demanding that anyone "celebrate their lifestyle" (whatever that is ) . They're not trying to impose their homosexuality on anyone or to interfere with their lives . All they are asking for is to be TOLERATED , which too many Americans refuse too do .
But too many Americans demand that gay people be denied all kinds of rights, not only to marry, just because their religious beliefs cause them to "disapprove " of homosexuality .

 

[brewmama]

Because opened eyes make way for an open mind.

You must be kidding. Seeing evil and depravity does nothing but give you an open mind??

 

[brewmama]

Angel4truth , you're just setting up a straw man here . Gay people aren't demanding that anyone "celebrate their lifestyle" (whatever that is ) . They're not trying to impose their homosexuality on anyone or to interfere with their lives . All they are asking for is to be TOLERATED , which too many Americans refuse too do .
But too many Americans demand that gay people be denied all kinds of rights, not only to marry, just because their religious beliefs cause them to "disapprove " of homosexuality .

Uh, no, you got just about everything in that post wrong. And you seem to have no idea what gay activists are after.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Angel4truth , you're just setting up a straw man here . Gay people aren't demanding that anyone "celebrate their lifestyle" (whatever that is ) .

yes, they are.

They're not trying to impose their homosexuality on anyone or to interfere with their lives .

yes, they are.

But too many Americans demand that gay people be denied all kinds of rights, not only to marry, just because their religious beliefs cause them to "disapprove " of homosexuality .

What right were they denied? For something to be a right, it applies to all people. Gay marriage is a special "right", that they believe supersedes the constitution.

Are you gay?