Knight's Pick 12-06-2004
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Awesome!
When I read your post all I could think of was that Guinness Beer commercial where the two weird cartoon characters keep saying....
"BRILLIANT"
You didn't like Clete's post?
Hilston you got to be kidding?
You are kidding right?
Because..... Clete wasn't comparing God to a set of numbers. Clete was showing you that certain infinite things have obvious exclusions i.e. limitations.
Just because you can conceptually exclude discrete entities from an infinite set says nothing about making exclusions concerning the infinitude of the properties of God. With all due respect to Clete, whom I've grown very fond of, he doesn't appear to know what he's talking about. If he understands concepts of infinitude, then he's holding back, because what he shared has little or nothing to do with God, or any description of God, or any properties of God. Actual and potential infinity are conceptual and abstract only. Transfinite numbers and set theory are useful in mathematical computations and can be mathematically modeled, but these concepts of infinity are as irrelevant to the subject of God as tire pressure is to engine performance.Originally posted by Knight
Hilston you got to be kidding?
You are kidding right?
Because..... Clete wasn't comparing God to a set of numbers. Clete was showing you that certain infinite things have obvious exclusions i.e. limitations.
Uh.... is that really a word?
I was hoping you made it up.Originally posted by Hilston
I probably made that one up.
Actually, it is a word. It just means "quality or state of being infinite : infiniteness." :devil:
It sorta sounds like a surfer dude talking about God's infinite character.
"Whoa dude.... God is like infinitude man. "
A new member of the X-Men: Infini-Dude.
His special power is the ability to surf inside/outside of a Moebius strip.
His special power is the ability to surf inside/outside of a Moebius strip.
Great post, Clete!
I'm also not too sure Sozo should be so happy that Hilston said he was right.:chuckle:
I'm also not too sure Sozo should be so happy that Hilston said he was right.:chuckle:
Wow! This thread has seen some action since I saw it last! Thanks everyone for your kind words!
Jim,
The number sets only served as an obvious example that was both easy to understand and easy to put into words. ANYTHING that is infinite will display the same property that I was discussing, that property being the one where if you removed any portion of something that is infinite, what remains is still infinite. That's how you know that it's infinite, because it has this property. The point being, as Knight pointed out, that it is not necessary to presume that because something is infinite, it is without any exclusion. You just cannot make that assumption based simply on the fact that something is infinite. All-inclusive and infinite are not synonyms.
Resting in Him,
Clete
P.S. I intend to repost this later this morning in the other thread so you don't have to respond here unless you just feel like do it in both places.
Jim,
The number sets only served as an obvious example that was both easy to understand and easy to put into words. ANYTHING that is infinite will display the same property that I was discussing, that property being the one where if you removed any portion of something that is infinite, what remains is still infinite. That's how you know that it's infinite, because it has this property. The point being, as Knight pointed out, that it is not necessary to presume that because something is infinite, it is without any exclusion. You just cannot make that assumption based simply on the fact that something is infinite. All-inclusive and infinite are not synonyms.
Resting in Him,
Clete
P.S. I intend to repost this later this morning in the other thread so you don't have to respond here unless you just feel like do it in both places.
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