Knight's Pick 01-11-2009

[Nathon Detroit]

Perfectly stated.

They seem to be in direct contrast.

eternal- no beginning
temporal- a beginning

We discussed this topic on the other thread. Do we need another time vs eternity thread?

Using your definitions, God is not eternal and temporal at the same time since God is uncreated without a beginning and end (eternal).

Being more theologically precise, God is eternal and temporal in the sense that He has no beginning/end, but still experiences endless duration vs timelessness. It is correct that His experience is DIVINE temporality, endless time AND eternal, no beginning, no end, from everlasting to everlasting (which does not mean eternal, so you beg the question by assuming your definition of eternal is the only possible one).

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[SaulToPaul 2]

Perfectly stated.

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An eternal God is not temporal. You know this.

2 Cor 4
17: For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;
18: While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.


rulz' post is theological mumbo-jumbo which basically denies
the eternal nature of God.

Here's how rulz has reworded the Bible: "for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are divinely temporal." :dizzy:


I know that open theism lives based on the idea that God is "in time", but you can't get away with calling
God temporal.