Welcome to the forum and your first post. I have listened to the video and agreed with some aspects, but disagreed with others. I agree that Jesus Christ is a Man, Jesus Christ is a prophet and Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God. I disagreed with his explanation of Jesus Christ is GOD. Also he is a KJV Only advocate. In the KJV, LORD and GOD in capital letters is reserved for the One God, Yahweh, God the Father in distinction to our Lord Jesus Christ Psalm 110:1. He rejects Trinitarianism and disagrees with Oneness Pentecostalism, but seems to be close to the Oneness Pentecostals. He also claims to speak in tongues and prophecy. One of the most confusing parts of his talk is where he claims that the Name of the Father is Jesus Christ about 12:20, but the Name of God is YHWH, sometimes rendered as Yahweh. Some of the video has been answered in the many threads on this forum.
Hey Trevor, you may disagree with Jesus Christ being God, but if any man speaks let him speak as the oracles of God. Not using words that are found no where in the word of God. The oracles of God, is the words of God. You should speak as the oracles of God rather than using words that are found no where in the word of God, like Yahweh. YHWH, the consonants are in the Hebrew manuscripts. The name Yahweh however is not. As explained in this video, Jesus Christ is God because the fullness of the Godhead dwells within him (Colossians 2:9), meaning the Spirit of God in its fullness is in the man Jesus Christ. The scriptures show Jesus Christ as a man, as a prophet, as the Son of the living God, and as God. If you believe all of the word of God, you should be able to accept this because this is what the scriptures say.
Congratulations on your second post. Out of interest, are you the actual "Bro Bronson", or is he the leader of a new group?
Ok I see where we wouldn't see eye to eye. Yes I am Bro. Bronson.
More like 100%
We've had the arguments collectively on TOL, all I'm saying is that there are self-identifying Christians who are Nontrinitarians. You or I or the late AMR might not classify them as Christians, but they see themselves as Christian, that's all I was saying.
Then 99% seems far too generous.
Your post is therefore unique, in that you have introduced yourself and your beliefs via a video. You seem to be sincere and genuine.
Let me be clear, I respect the KJV as a good translation, my main Bible that I have used for many years is the KJV, we mainly use the KJV at our meetings and readings. Your picture states that it was translated by 47 scholars and clergymen. You only said "47 scholars". Now many of these scholars and clergymen were Trinitarians, and I assume that most of them were Cof E. As such it is a historical document, and there were a number of English translations before the KJV.
If the translator's are Trinatarians what has that to do with the scriptures being translated accurately? No other version had 47 scholars, and clergymen to apply this amount of attention to the word of God being translated, that is the truth. And Isaiah 9:6 is very clear as well as the other scriptures showing Jesus Christ is referred to as God. Extremely clear. All you can do at this point is just reject or manipulate the scriptures. And honestly I can't go to a forum that's using the name "Yahweh" that is NOT found in any of the scriptures at all. As mentioned before JEHOVAH is the name of God, his highest name is Jesus Christ. The name Jesus Christ means JEHOVAH IS SALVATION. The Son of God inherited his name from his father Hebrews 1:4, the Holy Ghost which is the father is also sent in the name of Jesus Christ. John.14:26 Also Jesus Christ said he came in his Fathers name John 5:43.... He came with the name of Jehovah is salvation. He didn't come in the mame of Joseph. Look at the picture I will attach to this reply it shows you Jesus means Jehovah is salvation.
They followed their bias and rejected Tyndale's correct translation of Exodus 3:14. They also wanted to connect with the incorrect KJV Trinitarian translation of John 8:58. The RV and RSV translators added the translation "I will be" in the margin, showing that at least some of the translators of the RV and RSV agreed with Tyndale. AB Davidson, a noted Hebrew scholar, was on the RV panel, and he has advocated "I will be", even though I assume he was a Trinitarian. He has an article in Hastings Bible Dictionary on the subject "Jehovah" where he explains his preferred rendition of Exodus 3:14. His article is also quoted by Rotherham, and may be one reason why Rotherham uses "Yahweh" to represent the Hebrew YHWH throughout in his translation, but Rotherham was a Hebrew scholar in his own right, and he also gives a thorough explanation in his introduction. Alec Motyer, a recent Hebrew lecturer and expositor in his new translations of Psalms and Isaiah uses Yahweh throughout.
Both your KJV Only and your Oneness concepts evidenced in this portion of your reply seem very strange to me, based on very flimsy reasoning. I will let you gradually discover the correct view, and I will leave other members to discuss this with you.
Trevor, there is no reason for you to leave although you may leave if you wish. As you have seen in the picture that I provided, it is truth that the name of Jesus means Jehovah is Salvation. I do not have any oneness views I have scripture views, and I spoke as the oracles of God to you Trevor. It says very plainly in the scriptures that Jesus Christ inherited his name in Hebrews 1:4. It says he was made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance... obtained a name more excellent than they. Now the question is, where did he inherit his name from? It was from the Father. The Father's name is Jesus Christ. This is a revelation that not many people have, and I am trying to give this understanding to you. God is using me as a vessel right now for you. When someone is receiving new information it takes humbling yourself to receive this. The pride will prevent you from being able to receive this understanding. Out of all your getting, get understanding.
False. Only one Person's name is "Jesus Christ", and that Person is Jesus Christ--God the Son; that Person is not God the Father. God the Son is not God the Father/God the Father is not God the Son. So, whenever heretics call God the Father "Jesus Christ", they thereby demonstrate themselves to be antichrists.
| And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. |
| Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. |
Since you've made it clear that by your phrase "Jesus Christ" you are referring not to Jesus Christ, but instead to the Father, here is what you are telling us:
False. Plainly, Hebrews 1:4 does NOT teach that the Father inherited any name, nor does any other Bible verse.
Thank you for your "revelation", which is nothing but a revelation of the fact that you are a self-righteous, Bible-contradicting, Christ-denying heretic who has no understanding to give others.
