Hi to all , and since I believe that Paul is the ONLY ONE to explain what " in Christ " means !!
In Rom 16:7 , Paul writes , " who also were IN CHRIST before me " ??
How can this BE ??
DAN P
Hi to all , and since I believe that Paul is the ONLY ONE to explain what " in Christ " means !!
In Rom 16:7 , Paul writes , " who also were IN CHRIST before me " ??
How can this BE ??
DAN P
Doesn't he mean they were saved before him?Hi to all , and since I believe that Paul is the ONLY ONE to explain what " in Christ " means !!
In Rom 16:7 , Paul writes , " who also were IN CHRIST before me " ??
How can this BE ??
DAN P
Doesn't he mean they were saved before him?
It does not say "in the Body of Christ before me".Hi to all , and since I believe that Paul is the ONLY ONE to explain what " in Christ " means !!
In Rom 16:7 , Paul writes , " who also were IN CHRIST before me " ??
How can this BE ??
DAN P
It does not say "in the Body of Christ before me".
Hi , and does it mean that the Body of Christ was before Paul , IF they were in Christ BEFORE Paul ??
dan p
Choleric;3 but the Body began with the first person saved by grace through faith.[/QUOTE said:Hi , and who do you say , with verses , was the FIRST / PROTOS person inducted into the Body of Christ ??
I , believe that Nick always quotes 1 Tim 1:15 and 16 , where the Greek word PROTOS which means FIRST is used in 1 Tim 15 and 16 , so what do these 2 verses mean ??
dan p
That didn't answer my question.Hi , and there are about 3 places where the Gospel use the term " in Him " or in Jesus !!
In Him , was BEFORE Saul was saved !!
SAUL / PAUL used the terms , " in Christ , 31 times , in Whom , 6 times , in Christ Jesus , 47 times !!
In Christ to me , means " in Christ " Dispensationally !!
And there are 62 terms Doctrinally of being " in Christ ".
Then there 49 Practical application for daily living when believers are in Christ and can be googled by using Robert C Brock !!
dan p
Doesn't he mean they were saved before him?
Not even before Jesus did one have to convert, be water baptized and keep the Mosaic Law in order to be accepted by God. For example, God didn’t expect the Ninevites to suddenly convert to Judaism. There’s also an example found in Naaman. Naaman confesses allegiance to Elisha’s God, but there is no mention of him converting and keeping the law. Elisa responds to his confession, “Go in peace,” indicating he is accepted by his God.
Paul uses the body of Christ (members & head) metaphor to describe the intimate and dependent relationship believers have with Christ. Jesus uses the vine and branch metaphor to describe the intimate and dependent relationship believers have with Christ.
Paul uses the phrase “in Christ” to describe this unique relationship.
Jesus uses similar terminology to describe this unique relationship. He says that believers are “in Christ” when he says:
“that they may all be one; even as You, Father, are in me and I in You, that they also may be “in US” (John 17:21).
Paul also says that Christ is in us: “…Christ Jesus is in you” (2 Cor. 13:5) and “…Christ in you, the hope of glory” (Col. 1:27).
Jesus also says that he is in believers: “I in them, You in me” (John 17:23).
You see, it's not only those saved "according to the gospel of grace" who are in Christ (and whom Christ is in), it's also those saved "according to the gospel of the kingdom" who are in Christ (and whom Christ is in).
I guess that would mean Abraham, then? "For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. For what does the Scripture say? 'Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.' ...David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: 'Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven, and whose sins have been covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the LORD will not take into account.' ...for the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith. ...For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants..." (Romans 4:2-16).Of course. He body of Christ includes all saved people in this dispensation since the resurrection of Christ. Paul was not first. Many didn't know they were on the body of Christ until later, but the Body began with the first person saved by grace through faith.