lovemeorhateme
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Nineveh said:
That would only apply to the USA.
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That would only apply to the USA.
Nineveh said:
The ones in Minneapolis weren't supported by the city until the 90s.
And they went on anyway.
They were protest marches, and blocked traffic, but you can't do much about thousands of people protesting.
It was later recognized by the city.
So, nothing would change.
And the sponsors would still show up, because they want gay dollars.
erinmarie
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Rimi said:
Billybob participated in that thread if I remember correctly, and he is a Christian, still doesn't really prove anything on beanieboy's part...
The bottom line of that thread was that no allowances should be made for any injury to a child, because it would just lead to the real molesters and monsters getting allowances for their crimes.
By the way, I don't think anything in that thread played by normal TOL standards. Granite, a former Christian, now agnostic, was on the other side of the fence than Billybob, Zakath and taoist...he felt that the teached commited molestation, and that she should bve punished.
erinmarie said:
It does prove what the homo was saying about a double standard. I was just pointing out that the majority of those approving were not even Christians. Agree totally with your bottom line. Let the molesting teacher go in this case, and a molester who murders and mangles will be able to use it to cop a lesser sentence or get out of it altogether. The law says no to this. The law should also allow for execution so we have no more repeat offenders. Male or female.
firechyld
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OK... I know this thread has been dead for a while, but I just got back online and Greywolf had PMd me asking me to comment. So I shall. If no-one wants the thread to pop up again, just ignore my comments. Easy. 
Rimi:
I can't comment too much on NAMBLA itself, as it's very much an American organisation. In fact, of the many countries I've looked into that host regular gay pride events, none but America have anything even remotely resembling NAMBLA. I'd say they're more of an American phenomena than a homosexual one. But I digress.
In Australia, Sydney specifically, we have no such publicly acknowledged group of people who admit to their fondness for sex with those under the age of consent. However, both the gay scene and the BDSM scene have individuals who occasionally surface and declare this fondness. Both scenes, at least in the time I've been around (both underage and adult) have dealt with this situation in the exact same way. The individual is reported to the police, and monitored by the community. They are not, however, ordered to stop attending events and marches. The thinking is that, since they have been identified and are being watched, it is better that they remain in the public eye, rather than sinking into hiding where they can get away with their crimes, as so many heterosexual pedophiles do.
I can report that I have seen this tactic work successfully a large number of times. Frankly, I'd be happier if my hypothetical 16 year old daughter had some BDSM sceners I know looking out for her than a lot of "straight" people who are often put in that role.
Our straight pride parades have existed since 1978. The first several years were relatively unregulated, as they were protest marches. Since the major parades have been legal and regulated, children under the age of 16 are not permitted to march unescorted. Parent groups such as PFLAG, queer family units and parental support groups are allowed to bring THEIR OWN kids with them. Any group such as Generation Youth that is organised as a Queer Youth Support Group must have parental consent forms from the parents of all youth under 16, and must prove that they are able to deliver the teens to their homes after the parade. None of the parties, with the exception of the all ages event, allow under 18s. The all ages event is chaperoned and policed, and people over 23 are not allowed inside.
Believe it or not, we're as concerned about the safety of the kids in our community as you are about the kids in yours.
As I tried to explain to you repeatedly, I am a bisexual women with a male partner. I have been a bisexual woman with a male partner for quite some time. This has not changed. Apparantly this simple explanation was so tricky for you to grasp that you still can't get it several months later.
I am not a compulsive liar.
Well, you can't check the background of every person in a parade. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous. It doesn't really matter if it's a gay pride parade, a war veterans parade, or any other event that results in a bunch of people marching from somewhere to somewhere else.
blunttruth...
Seriously. Try it. I'd love for you to actually see what goes on. Surprisingly little recruitment. Much more parading.
Rimi (again)...
Actually, most of the gays/lesbians/bisexuals I know who use TOL don't spend much time on the Bob Enyart board. I wouldn't have found this thread if Greywolf hadn't alerted me.
lovemeorhateme...
While I appreciate your condemnation of pedophiles, I disagree with you on appropriate punishment. The vast majority of pedophiles never penetrate their victims.
Rimi:
I can't comment too much on NAMBLA itself, as it's very much an American organisation. In fact, of the many countries I've looked into that host regular gay pride events, none but America have anything even remotely resembling NAMBLA. I'd say they're more of an American phenomena than a homosexual one. But I digress.
In Australia, Sydney specifically, we have no such publicly acknowledged group of people who admit to their fondness for sex with those under the age of consent. However, both the gay scene and the BDSM scene have individuals who occasionally surface and declare this fondness. Both scenes, at least in the time I've been around (both underage and adult) have dealt with this situation in the exact same way. The individual is reported to the police, and monitored by the community. They are not, however, ordered to stop attending events and marches. The thinking is that, since they have been identified and are being watched, it is better that they remain in the public eye, rather than sinking into hiding where they can get away with their crimes, as so many heterosexual pedophiles do.
I can report that I have seen this tactic work successfully a large number of times. Frankly, I'd be happier if my hypothetical 16 year old daughter had some BDSM sceners I know looking out for her than a lot of "straight" people who are often put in that role.
Our straight pride parades have existed since 1978. The first several years were relatively unregulated, as they were protest marches. Since the major parades have been legal and regulated, children under the age of 16 are not permitted to march unescorted. Parent groups such as PFLAG, queer family units and parental support groups are allowed to bring THEIR OWN kids with them. Any group such as Generation Youth that is organised as a Queer Youth Support Group must have parental consent forms from the parents of all youth under 16, and must prove that they are able to deliver the teens to their homes after the parade. None of the parties, with the exception of the all ages event, allow under 18s. The all ages event is chaperoned and policed, and people over 23 are not allowed inside.
Believe it or not, we're as concerned about the safety of the kids in our community as you are about the kids in yours.
As I tried to explain to you repeatedly, I am a bisexual women with a male partner. I have been a bisexual woman with a male partner for quite some time. This has not changed. Apparantly this simple explanation was so tricky for you to grasp that you still can't get it several months later.
I am not a compulsive liar.
Well, you can't check the background of every person in a parade. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous. It doesn't really matter if it's a gay pride parade, a war veterans parade, or any other event that results in a bunch of people marching from somewhere to somewhere else.
blunttruth...
Seriously. Try it. I'd love for you to actually see what goes on. Surprisingly little recruitment. Much more parading.
Rimi (again)...
Actually, most of the gays/lesbians/bisexuals I know who use TOL don't spend much time on the Bob Enyart board. I wouldn't have found this thread if Greywolf hadn't alerted me.
lovemeorhateme...
While I appreciate your condemnation of pedophiles, I disagree with you on appropriate punishment. The vast majority of pedophiles never penetrate their victims.
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