if you were God, what would this person deserve.. Hell?

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if a person, say, murders the unborn every day of his life.. Then he retires at ... say, age 70... and right b4 death repents of all that murder

Does he go straight to Heaven?

well, if he is baptized for the first time after confessing, yeh, he might... I doubt it would be a high level of Heaven, but yeh...

however, if he became a "Christian" at age 20 and then later did all this evil AFTER being baptized...

even if he repents...

well, what do you think should happen to this person (assuming this is the only egregious sin he has on his conscience)

Heaven?

Hell?

something else?



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you people don't want to answer b/c you know that Purgatory is the only answer that makes sense

and God being an intelligent Person, it can be assumed that he would provide for... you know... people not bad enough to go to Hell forever... but not good enough for Heaven yet..

OK

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If he believes on the Lord Jesus Christ, he is saved and goes to heaven. The Bible is clear that going to heaven is not about how good you are. Purgatory makes no sense because it's not in the Bible.
 
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republicanchick said:
if a person, say, murders the unborn every day of his life.. Then he retires at ... say, age 70... and right b4 death repents of all that murder

Does he go straight to Heaven?

well, if he is baptized for the first time after confessing, yeh, he might... I doubt it would be a high level of Heaven, but yeh...

however, if he became a "Christian" at age 20 and then later did all this evil AFTER being baptized...

even if he repents...

well, what do you think should happen to this person (assuming this is the only egregious sin he has on his conscience)

Heaven?

Hell?

something else?



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no, if he saved himself
 
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republicanchick said:
you people don't want to answer b/c you know that Purgatory is the only answer that makes sense

and God being an intelligent Person, it can be assumed that he would provide for... you know... people not bad enough to go to Hell forever... but not good enough for Heaven yet..

OK

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Too much purgatory makes the saved no good.
 
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He should go straight to hell. That's what his works have earned him. But then again that's what your and my works have earned us as well.

That's why salvation is by grace through faith apart from works.
 
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republicanchick said:
Does he go straight to Heaven?
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What part of forgiven all trespasses are you not following? Repentance is a word you don't need and should not use. It is his trust in the Lord Jesus Christ's finished work and believing the gospel that will give him life. Nothing else will.

Anyway, does not murdering every day make one righteous?
 
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Nick M said:
What part of forgiven all trespasses are you not following? Repentance is a word you don't need and should not use. It is his trust in the Lord Jesus Christ's finished work and believing the gospel that will give him life. Nothing else will.

Anyway, does not murdering every day make one righteous?
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Does the illusion of trusting count?
 
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republicanchick said:
you people don't want to answer b/c you know that Purgatory is the only answer that makes sense

and God being an intelligent Person, it can be assumed that he would provide for... you know... people not bad enough to go to Hell forever... but not good enough for Heaven yet..

OK

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Can you point me to purgatory in scripture?
 
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republicanchick said:
if a person, say, murders the unborn every day of his life.. Then he retires at ... say, age 70... and right b4 death repents of all that murder

Does he go straight to Heaven?

well, if he is baptized for the first time after confessing, yeh, he might... I doubt it would be a high level of Heaven, but yeh...

however, if he became a "Christian" at age 20 and then later did all this evil AFTER being baptized...

even if he repents...

well, what do you think should happen to this person (assuming this is the only egregious sin he has on his conscience)

Heaven?

Hell?

something else?



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I recall Jesus saying something that directly bears upon this...

Today thou shalt be with me in paradise.
Luke 23:43

Where's paradise?

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Revelation 2:7
 
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You deserve Hell R.chick. We all do.
Because God is just, there is a penalty that is imposed.
Jesus stepped in as a mediator offering to take the punishment we deserve. ..death and seperation from all Goodness.
Christ defeated death and offers us His righteousness.
For God so loved Republican chick that He gave His only begotten Son so that WHO SO EVER believes will not perish but have life ever lasting.
 
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Nick M said:
What part of forgiven all trespasses are you not following? Repentance is a word you don't need and should not use. It is his trust in the Lord Jesus Christ's finished work and believing the gospel that will give him life. Nothing else will.

Anyway, does not murdering every day make one righteous?
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For an unnecessary word it sure occurs frequently in the NT.

Repent NT references =53 link


[Edit] Many guys who beat their wives tell their wives they love them every day. Do they really love their wives? If our works are not consistent with our words then we are liars. "Faith without works is dead."
 
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republicanchick said:
if a person, say, murders the unborn every day of his life.. Then he retires at ... say, age 70... and right b4 death repents of all that murder

Does he go straight to Heaven?

well, if he is baptized for the first time after confessing, yeh, he might... I doubt it would be a high level of Heaven, but yeh...

however, if he became a "Christian" at age 20 and then later did all this evil AFTER being baptized...

even if he repents...

well, what do you think should happen to this person (assuming this is the only egregious sin he has on his conscience)

Heaven?

Hell?

something else?



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God is far more just than any of us can ever hope to be. God will judge perfectly so I will not presume to judge for Him.
 
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Nick M said:
What part of forgiven all trespasses are you not following? Repentance is a word you don't need and should not use.
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Huh?

:idunno:

Acts 20:21
Romans 2:4
2 Cor 7:9-10
2 Tim 2:25

To name just a few.

I thought you considered all of Paul's writings as being to the body of Christ, no?
 
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Dialogos said:
He should go straight to hell. That's what his works have earned him. But then again that's what your and my works have earned us as well.

That's why salvation is by grace through faith apart from works.
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well, I have no problem w/ this (meaning the Church does not)

never did the RCC teach that we can earn our way to Heaven by good wrks alone

but that is the misguided beliefs people have about the Church


500 years of separation from the true Church... not surprising



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