If the woman has a "right" to choose, the government of China has a greater one
A series of reflections:
Reflection 1: And even if they didn't, what right have they got to murder my baby? What right have they got to decide who lives and who dies" (America, speaking out against the Judges; from the "America" series of the Judge Dredd Comic). The cri de ceour, of course, against the overreaching claims of totalitarian regimes on the human person; do we not hear the same protest against the conceit of the Chinese, with their "one child policy"? But I turn this question on the liberals themselves, on the individual woman: "What right have you?"
Reflection 2: Spoken in a different way: the liberal cannot tell me in the same breath that the State has no claim of right over the life of the unborn, and then tell me that the mother has that very right. The right of the State is greater, if any such right exists at all.
Reflection 3: If the individual woman has the right to slay her unborn child, then the State has the same right in an even greater sense. For the women is related to the political society as a part to a whole, and the demands and rights of the State are more powerful, more lordly and more authortative. The good of the whole is greater than the good of a part.
The State does not have such a right? Then neither does the individual woman.
Telling me about the decisions of the supreme court doesn't really affect my argument.
But you cannot, in one and the same breath, tell me that a woman has such a right, and then go on to criticize the State for exercising that same "right" (e.g., forced abortions in China), when, in fact, the State seeks to serve a greater good/interest in so doing, and does so from a higher and more authoritative perspective.
So, returning back to the comic: if ANYONE has a right to slay an unborn child (I say, in answer to America in the comics), the Judges (speaking in terms of the original comic book that inspired these comments) or the State (in terms of the real world) do. If they don't, then NOBODY does.
Reflection 4: The woman, insofar as a material individual, is a mere part of the political society. As such, the good of the entire society is greater than her good. If she has a "right" to abortion to preserve her own good, then the State has a "right" to force her to commit an abortion for its own good, which is far greater.
Consider the claims that each makes:
The individual woman: I abort this child because this infringes on my own good. I can't afford this baby. I am not prepared to raise it. This will seriously infringe on my own future quality of life. I might even die in childbirth.
The State: if we permit people to have as many children as they like, here are the consequences for the whole society. Here are the various catastrophes which "overpopulation" spells for our society. This woman, insofar as about to have a child in such and such circumstances, is an instantiation of circumstances which threaten the total societal good, -including her own.-
Who has the greater claim?
Therefore, I repeat:
Either the State has a greater right, or else, the woman has none.
The moment that the woman objects against the State, "what right do you have to decide who lives or dies," that is the very moment I answer her: "None, and neither do you."
A series of reflections:
Reflection 1: And even if they didn't, what right have they got to murder my baby? What right have they got to decide who lives and who dies" (America, speaking out against the Judges; from the "America" series of the Judge Dredd Comic). The cri de ceour, of course, against the overreaching claims of totalitarian regimes on the human person; do we not hear the same protest against the conceit of the Chinese, with their "one child policy"? But I turn this question on the liberals themselves, on the individual woman: "What right have you?"
Reflection 2: Spoken in a different way: the liberal cannot tell me in the same breath that the State has no claim of right over the life of the unborn, and then tell me that the mother has that very right. The right of the State is greater, if any such right exists at all.
Reflection 3: If the individual woman has the right to slay her unborn child, then the State has the same right in an even greater sense. For the women is related to the political society as a part to a whole, and the demands and rights of the State are more powerful, more lordly and more authortative. The good of the whole is greater than the good of a part.
The State does not have such a right? Then neither does the individual woman.
Telling me about the decisions of the supreme court doesn't really affect my argument.
But you cannot, in one and the same breath, tell me that a woman has such a right, and then go on to criticize the State for exercising that same "right" (e.g., forced abortions in China), when, in fact, the State seeks to serve a greater good/interest in so doing, and does so from a higher and more authoritative perspective.
So, returning back to the comic: if ANYONE has a right to slay an unborn child (I say, in answer to America in the comics), the Judges (speaking in terms of the original comic book that inspired these comments) or the State (in terms of the real world) do. If they don't, then NOBODY does.
Reflection 4: The woman, insofar as a material individual, is a mere part of the political society. As such, the good of the entire society is greater than her good. If she has a "right" to abortion to preserve her own good, then the State has a "right" to force her to commit an abortion for its own good, which is far greater.
Consider the claims that each makes:
The individual woman: I abort this child because this infringes on my own good. I can't afford this baby. I am not prepared to raise it. This will seriously infringe on my own future quality of life. I might even die in childbirth.
The State: if we permit people to have as many children as they like, here are the consequences for the whole society. Here are the various catastrophes which "overpopulation" spells for our society. This woman, insofar as about to have a child in such and such circumstances, is an instantiation of circumstances which threaten the total societal good, -including her own.-
Who has the greater claim?
Therefore, I repeat:
Either the State has a greater right, or else, the woman has none.
The moment that the woman objects against the State, "what right do you have to decide who lives or dies," that is the very moment I answer her: "None, and neither do you."
