You need to believe in Him. John 3:16 (KJV)Lon,
Thank you for giving me opportunity to discuss what Jesus says about Christianity.
My first question to you is:
1) what does Jesus say about how to become His disciple or follower?
Thank you again.
GT, you are so censored.
You need to believe in Him. John 3:16 (KJV)
He said don't listen to fools like Marhig and GT, and I obey Him completely.And what did Jesus tell those who believed in him that they are to do? He said to those who believed in him that they are to continue in his word, and that means live by what he taught. We are to be doers of the word and not hearers only.
John 8
As he spake these words, many believed on him.
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed
Jesus says to do this and do that, and do not do this, and do not do that.
Lon and other Calvinsits say, "No Jesus, I cannot and will not---but you, save me first."
Jesus does NOT save unbelievers.
There is NO scripture anywhere that says Jesus saves unbelievers.
Perhaps not my place to intrude, but that has not stopped me in the past, but why don't you tell Lon and us what you think on the subject? It is your thread, after all.
He said don't listen to fools like Marhig and GT, and I obey Him completely.
GT, you are so censored.
You need to believe in Him. John 3:16 (KJV)
To quoth Saint John W, you're a dirty rat, and yet your and GT's biggest concern is pointing out that others are dirty rats. And since we're all dirty rats, what gives you any right or authority in proclaiming that others are dirty rats? You're not a less dirty rat, you're just a plain dirty rat.What? Now I'm a fool for quoting what Jesus says? That we are to abide in his word if we believe in him. What's wrong with that? I'm just showing that we can't just say we believe with our mouths, we are to live it out and live by the word of God if we truly believe and yes we are to obey him.
If you obey him completely that's good, that means then that your are living by the will of God. And that's what we are to do!
Then read the Westminster standards (confession and catechisms).I am sorry but I am interested in what Calvinists have to say about it.
Where did I call anyone a dirty rat?To quoth Saint John W, you're a dirty rat, and yet your and GT's biggest concern is pointing out that others are dirty rats. And since we're all dirty rats, what gives you any right or authority in proclaiming that others are dirty rats? You're not a less dirty rat, you're just a plain dirty rat.
It's a metaphor. Your whole life is to call people dirty rats. You're consumed with pointing out flaws in others.Where did I call anyone a dirty rat?
We all have flaws, and yes i probably more than anyone, i am a sinner, but God through Christ can give all of us the strength to overcome our flesh, if we are willing to lay down our lives and and live by his will. At least I admit I sin, i don't go around saying I've got no sin they are in hell etc etc.It's a metaphor. Your whole life is to call people dirty rats. You're consumed with pointing out flaws in others.
OK, thank you.We all have flaws, and yes i probably more than anyone, i am a sinner, but God through Christ can give all of us the strength to overcome our flesh, if we are willing to lay down our lives and and live by his will. At least I admit I sin, i don't go around saying I've got no sin it's they are in hell etc etc.
1 John 1
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us*our*sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.