Have you been menticided?

annabenedetti

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Consequently, guided public opinion is the result

She tells you to beware of guided public opinion and then proceeds to guide you through all the things she thinks you should be watching and reading. She tells you to get off TV and then tells you to get on TV and here are the programs you should be viewing. She tells you to stop reading newspapers and never mentions the sucking vortex of the internet (oh, she mentions social media, but nothing else, and then guides you to a ton of conspiracy-leaning sites and video platforms that you should be reading and watching.

She tells you not to allow yourself to be guided, and then literally gives you 12 steps to guide you! She even tells you what kind of music you should listen to, what youtube channels are acceptable, and a whole list of what movies to watch. 😂 Talk about guiding your opinion!

Also it would be interesting to know her background, since shoehorning various terms like operant conditioning into a right-wing pop psychology commentary on the pandemic without a background in psychology and a decent understanding of behaviorism just sounds like someone trying to pretend they know more than they do.



Some ideas she has that are worth considering, although they're very basic and unoriginal. I hope you paid as much attention to these as you did to the new word you just learned that confirms all your existing biases.

Reignite your curiosity.​
Shed your cognitive biases, ideological predilections, and preconceived notions.​
Ask heaps of questions—especially “why.” Ask yourself why you believe something and on what evidence you are basing this belief. Drill down to your root premises and see if they withstand scrutiny.​
When you encounter “news,” apply logic; reason (the rest of the sentence is gobbledegook about life before Covid).​
Play devil’s advocate. Take John Stuart Mill’s advice and argue your opponent’s side.​
 

annabenedetti

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Apparently, you have no idea what she means by "guided public opinion". That figures.

I'm going by her framing:

"Ready made opinions can be distributed day by day through press, radio, and so on, again and again, till they reach the nerve cell and implant a fixed pattern of thought in the brain. Consequently, guided public opinion is the result..."

She has offered her "ready-made opinions" on, let's see.... the same social media she's telling her readers to stay away from! That's right, she's on Twitter and Facebook, as well as gab and YouTube. So much for staying off social media, but hey, if she can boost more paid subscribers on substack at least there's that.

So yes, she managed to "reach freeloader's nerve cell and implant a fixed pattern of thought on his brain," because he dutifully came here and amplified her words.
 
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annabenedetti

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Apparently she also assumes a single person writing a blog is a powerful tyrant capable of controlling all media messaging. Blogger's are tyrants! :rolleyes:

Bloggers plural has no apostrophe. But I'm glad you're enjoying her substack, where you can high-five with your tribe.

Don't forget to help her "keep fighting tyranny and democide by subscribing, buying [her] coffee, or making a one-time donation!"

And you should check out Heather Cox Richardson sometime and "shed your cognitive biases, ideological predilections, and preconceived notions!"
 
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ok doser

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"Ready made opinions can be distributed day by day through press, radio, and so on, again and again, till they reach the nerve cell and implant a fixed pattern of thought in the brain. Consequently, guided public opinion is the result..."
We see this demonstrated often here in the posts of rusha, who avidly consumes the opinions of Brian Stelter, Rachel Maddow and the drooling retards on The View
 
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Gary K

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I'm going by her framing:

"Ready made opinions can be distributed day by day through press, radio, and so on, again and again, till they reach the nerve cell and implant a fixed pattern of thought in the brain. Consequently, guided public opinion is the result..."

She has offered her "ready-made opinions" on, let's see.... the same social media she's telling her readers to stay away from! That's right, she's on Twitter and Facebook, as well as gab and YouTube. So much for staying off social media, but hey, if she can boost more paid subscribers on substack at least there's that.

So yes, she managed to "reach freeloader's nerve cell and implant a fixed pattern of thought on his brain," because he dutifully came here and amplified her words.
LOL. Oh, yeah. I have read exactly one article that she has written and that one article menticided me. Odd isn't it that the actual description of menticided is at complete variance with yours. She just absolutely controls all media messaging. She's a tyrant.:rolleyes:

I must somehow have misread the description of menticided as I hadn't looked into it before.

Abstract​

The concept of "menticide" indicates an organized system of judicial perversion and psychological intervention, in which a powerful tyrant transfers his own thoughts and words into the minds and mouths of the victims he plans to destroy or to use for his own propaganda. Modern psychiatry may deliver him several tools for this perversion. Our psychiatric standpoint toward this challenge has to be formulated. Examples of menticide are described and ways of protection indicated.
That description comes from the Journal of American Psychology. But I already know it won't matter to you as you already know you're lying. Anything to try to distract from information you hate.
 

PureX

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She tells you to beware of guided public opinion and then proceeds to guide you through all the things she thinks you should be watching and reading. She tells you to get off TV and then tells you to get on TV and here are the programs you should be viewing. She tells you to stop reading newspapers and never mentions the sucking vortex of the internet (oh, she mentions social media, but nothing else, and then guides you to a ton of conspiracy-leaning sites and video platforms that you should be reading and watching.

She tells you not to allow yourself to be guided, and then literally gives you 12 steps to guide you! She even tells you what kind of music you should listen to, what youtube channels are acceptable, and a whole list of what movies to watch. 😂 Talk about guiding your opinion!

Also it would be interesting to know her background, since shoehorning various terms like operant conditioning into a right-wing pop psychology commentary on the pandemic without a background in psychology and a decent understanding of behaviorism just sounds like someone trying to pretend they know more than they do.



Some ideas she has that are worth considering, although they're very basic and unoriginal. I hope you paid as much attention to these as you did to the new word you just learned that confirms all your existing biases.

Reignite your curiosity.​
Shed your cognitive biases, ideological predilections, and preconceived notions.​
Ask heaps of questions—especially “why.” Ask yourself why you believe something and on what evidence you are basing this belief. Drill down to your root premises and see if they withstand scrutiny.​
When you encounter “news,” apply logic; reason (the rest of the sentence is gobbledegook about life before Covid).​
Play devil’s advocate. Take John Stuart Mill’s advice and argue your opponent’s side.​
Yes, that made me laugh, too. It's like Tucker Carlson on the airwaves day after day telling his loyal cult followers how the news media are all liars and doesn't allow free speech, anymore. :) ... And yet, there he is! The current king of the media blowhards, spouting off about whatever he wants, day in and day out.
 

Gary K

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Yes, that made me laugh, too. It's like Tucker Carlson on the airwaves day after day telling his loyal cult followers how the news media are all liars and doesn't allow free speech, anymore. :) ... And yet, there he is! The current king of the media blowhards, spouting off about whatever he wants, day in and day out.
LOL. I love how you completely ignore the description of menticide just like anna does.
 

Yorzhik

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Yes, that made me laugh, too. It's like Tucker Carlson on the airwaves day after day telling his loyal cult followers how the news media are all liars and doesn't allow free speech, anymore. :) ... And yet, there he is! The current king of the media blowhards, spouting off about whatever he wants, day in and day out.
LOL, you don't know about cults much. A tendency of cults is that the leader isn't questioned. But a large part, the majority actually, question a number of positions Tucker holds.

It means he's not a cult.
 

annabenedetti

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LOL. Oh, yeah. I have read exactly one article that she has written and that one article menticided me.

And that one article had you in total agreement, and you ran straight here to amplify it.

Odd isn't it that the actual description of menticided is at complete variance with yours. She just absolutely controls all media messaging. She's a tyrant.:rolleyes:

I'll let you in on the joke here. We're not menticided in this country (we're not North Korea).

We have no single 'tyrant' menticiding us. And don't throw in Satan as the single tyrant, we're talking secular tyrants. There are multiple factors as to why and how people are influenced, from evil capitalism to religious and political power manipulation and a whole lot in between. Even basic advertising is a form of brainwashing. But there is no "organized" single-source brainwashing going on here, even the crazy MAGA propaganda has limited power, its own deluded followers constitute a minority, but they're striving mightily at getting and/or maintaining minority rule. And they may yet succeed.

You've missed my main point, whether intentionally or by sheer obliviousness. You're amplifying someone who tells the reader not to trust "c) Organizations, regulatory agencies, tyrants, politicians, self-aggrandizing “experts”, compromised scientists, behavioral psychologists, public-opinion engineers, smear merchants, ghostwriters, Big Tech gatekeepers, influencers, pushers, fact-chokers, and other colluders enlisted to control the narrative to protect the power and profits of (a) and (b)."

Yet she pushes many of these various entities to you, the reader. She literally relies on behavioral psychology terminology like operant conditioning but that's okay, because she's vetted them for you! She is a self-aggrandizing expert telling you not to rely on self-aggrandizing experts. She is herself an "influencer" on the very social media platforms she's warned you about, helping to perpetuate their "power and profits." She herself is in the business of making money off of influencing the thinking of her readers.

Do you not see this?

I must somehow have misread the description of menticided as I hadn't looked into it before.

That description comes from the Journal of American Psychology.

There's a reason you didn't provide a link, isn't there? Because your definition circles right back to your OP, it's the same guy! Joost A. M. Meerloo! It's not the Journal's definition, it's Meerloo's definition. So you used Meerloo to support Meerloo. Nice work! 😂
 

ok doser

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LOL, you don't know about cults much. A tendency of cults is that the leader isn't questioned. But a large part, the majority actually, question a number of positions Tucker holds.

It means he's not a cult.
You'll have to throw much much harder than that to dent the rock that Purex uses instead of a head
 

annabenedetti

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Yes, that made me laugh, too. It's like Tucker Carlson on the airwaves day after day telling his loyal cult followers how the news media are all liars and doesn't allow free speech, anymore. :) ... And yet, there he is! The current king of the media blowhards, spouting off about whatever he wants, day in and day out.

Money money money... Yeah, funny how they talk about the MSM as if it didn't include Fox, the top of the heap of the MSM.
 

ok doser

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Money money money... Yeah, funny how they talk about the MSM as if it didn't include Fox, the top of the heap of the MSM.
Generally when people who aren't insane leftists refer to the MSM they're referring to the leftist liberal lying side of the media, and it's understood that Fox and some few other news outlets are on the right side of the media and can be counted on to cover issues that the leftist side won't.
 

annabenedetti

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From the OP:

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No brainwashing going on by the OP's inclusion of this artwork. None at all!
 

PureX

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LOL. I love how you completely ignore the description of menticide just like anna does.
Oh, the deception is very real. But everyone believes it's the 'other guys' that's being deceived.

I think it was Hermann Goring that said, "always blame your own crimes on your enemies, ... especially the really bad ones; while you're committing them". Or something similar. Because the blatant disconnect between reality and the statement shocks and confuses people, and causes them to doubt what they're seing with their own eyes and hearing with their own ears.
 

Gary K

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And that one article had you in total agreement, and you ran straight here to amplify it.



I'll let you in on the joke here. We're not menticided in this country (we're not North Korea).

We have no single 'tyrant' menticiding us. And don't throw in Satan as the single tyrant, we're talking secular tyrants. There are multiple factors as to why and how people are influenced, from evil capitalism to religious and political power manipulation and a whole lot in between. Even basic advertising is a form of brainwashing. But there is no "organized" single-source brainwashing going on here, even the crazy MAGA propaganda has limited power, its own deluded followers constitute a minority, but they're striving mightily at getting and/or maintaining minority rule. And they may yet succeed.

You've missed my main point, whether intentionally or by sheer obliviousness. You're amplifying someone who tells the reader not to trust "c) Organizations, regulatory agencies, tyrants, politicians, self-aggrandizing “experts”, compromised scientists, behavioral psychologists, public-opinion engineers, smear merchants, ghostwriters, Big Tech gatekeepers, influencers, pushers, fact-chokers, and other colluders enlisted to control the narrative to protect the power and profits of (a) and (b)."

Yet she pushes many of these various entities to you, the reader. She literally relies on behavioral psychology terminology like operant conditioning but that's okay, because she's vetted them for you! She is a self-aggrandizing expert telling you not to rely on self-aggrandizing experts. She is herself an "influencer" on the very social media platforms she's warned you about, helping to perpetuate their "power and profits." She herself is in the business of making money off of influencing the thinking of her readers.

Do you not see this?



There's a reason you didn't provide a link, isn't there? Because your definition circles right back to your OP, it's the same guy! Joost A. M. Meerloo! It's not the Journal's definition, it's Meerloo's definition. So you used Meerloo to support Meerloo. Nice work! 😂
How am I to see this blogger as a powerful tyrant capable of using all the power of the state to manipulate and brainwash people?
 

Gary K

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Oh, the deception is very real. But everyone believes it's the 'other guys' that's being deceived.

I think it was Hermann Goring that said, "always blame your own crimes on your enemies, ... especially the really bad ones; while you're committing them". Or something similar. Because the blatant disconnect between reality and the statement shocks and confuses people, and causes them to doubt what they're seing with their own eyes and hearing with their own ears.
There is another explanation . It's called mass formation psychosis. It's what happened to the German people in WW2. They could no longer tell the difference between truth and lies. A minority are invulnerable to it, and you're with the majority so that ought to tell you something about yourself.
 
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