So offered Robert Frost some years ago. His offering is likely more germane now than ever.
Good fences make good neighbors
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A thought experiment:
What would a nation's laws for its citizens have to look like to justify a policy of legal immigration for anyone who turned up at its borders?
Said another way: How strict would the law for citizens have to be to deal with open borders?
What would a nation's laws for its citizens have to look like to justify a policy of legal immigration for anyone who turned up at its borders?
Said another way: How strict would the law for citizens have to be to deal with open borders?
Did you mean to say "citizenry?"
Paul Thomson
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The democrats appear to want both open. They need a voting disaffected poverty class to run their marxist system effectively.
We are seeing western (read here "Christian") culture, being by far the most "vaxxed" (hats off to the Jews here as well), being killed off and replaced by the "unvaxxed" from everywhere else, across a non existent border. At a certain point one would think that we would begin keeping score in our own self interest. Not all seem to be so inclined.
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Citizenry would be all those within a geographical/socio-political boundary, whereas; a citizen, as is legally defined in what is left of this country, infers a legal process conferring membership amongst the rest of those in said boundary, in which an increasing number of our "citizenry" has not yet participated.
Mending Wall
BY ROBERT FROSTSomething there is that doesn’t love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun;
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there.
I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
‘Stay where you are until our backs are turned!’
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
Oh, just another kind of out-door game,
One on a side. It comes to little more:
There where it is we do not need the wall:
He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says, ‘Good fences make good neighbors.’
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
‘Why do they make good neighbors? Isn’t it
Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I’d ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offense.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down.’ I could say ‘Elves’ to him,
But it’s not elves exactly, and I’d rather
He said it for himself. I see him there
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me,
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father’s saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says again, ‘Good fences make good neighbors.’
There's no such thing as a Christian culture.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Obviously there are those that believe in Christ and they tend to live in proximity to each other, when given a choice, and have their own culture. No?
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Duly noted.
We're about to find out I suspect.
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I'm not sure this would help, but for as good as Jesus was, he wasn't a good citizen. It got Him killed.
And just so you don't think Jesus was unique, so many that followed Him, including Paul ended up the same way.
Yet, via all these individual lives throughout history, Christians have done the most to help their fellow man. Thus, if one can figure out how being good and loving to their fellow man but yet defying their own country's leader's decisions, then one could understand what you are saying.