Matthew 18 King James Version (KJV)
18 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.
6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
2 Peter 2 King James Version (KJV)
2 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
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[MENTION=16942]JudgeRightly[/MENTION] - can you fix my thread title?
thanks JR
and worth pointing out something that came up in the previous thread - the extent of my empathy and compassion for the wicked is to inform them of the path they've chosen and to urge them to accept Christ before they have justice meted out upon them
i'm sorry you feel that way artie
now, do you have anything to say that's on topic?
Should a Christian have empathy and compassion for murderers, rapists, child molesters?
I say no, that they deserve justice, that their victims deserve justice
discuss
from here
Hitler was the model for the initial discussion. Assuming he died unrepentant, should one feel empathy and compassion for him?
We should morn any who are lost.
Perhaps Hitler had evil things done to him that shaped him into who he was.
i disagree - those who are lost are the wicked
i have confidence that Christ will gather in all of His flock, therefore, those outside the flock are wolves
i don't have empathy and compassion for wolves
i would counter that every man encounters evil in his life and makes the choice whether to reject it or embrace it
and so, empathy and compassion for Hitler for the evil he encountered is a thin type of empathy and compassion that applies to every man
No. And they should get what they deserve from the Law of men.Should a Christian have empathy and compassion for murderers, rapists, child molesters?
I say no, that they deserve justice, that their victims deserve justice
discuss
from here
You can disagree, but you aren't inline with God or the scriptures on the matter. God loved and saved us even as sinners, and he rejoices when anyone returns to him. Similarly, he is saddened when people are lost. If you feel nothing for the loss of God's children, your heart isn't in the right place.
Indeed, we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. We all known temptation and sin, and we have all gotten the short end of the stick and been put in less than desirable circumstances. Thus we may generally empathize and have compassion and understanding for all people. This was one of the important reasons that Jesus needed to be a man - so that he could experience and understand the temptations that are common to man that he might better understand and empathize with us.
Hitler was the model for the initial discussion. Assuming he died unrepentant, should one feel empathy and compassion for him?