Earliest televised free will debate, now on radio Pt. 4
This is the show from Tuesday, May 26th, 2020
SUMMARY:
Did God eternally decree the 2020 global shutdown and pandemic? Leading Calvinist John Piper writes in his book Coronavirus and Christ that "the sovereign God... ordains... all things." If John is correct, then I've been eternally decreed to say that he's wrong. Clearly, Bob Enyart's televised debate from the 1990s, on predestination with Calvinist pastor Brian Schwertley, is as relevant as ever. In this episode, Bob reiterates two questions that Brian and many Calvinists are loathe to answer. First, when God the Son took upon Himself a human nature, was that a change? And second, in God's potter and the clay lesson, did He complete the vessel that He first started to make, or did God make it again, into another vessel, as it seemed good to Him to make? Michigan talk show host John Mangopoulos moderates the debate on his Battle of Ideas program. Sadly but predictively, in his first comments, Bob asked, "Does the Calvinist deny that God the Son became flesh? I would hope not." Bob worried that Calvinists, even well known ones, may start denying Christianity's central doctrine, the Incarnation, to defend pagan Greek absolute immutability. Sadly, in 2014 that fear became justified when R.C. Sproul Jr. and Dr. James Write repeatedly denied that God the Son took on a human nature. See kgov.com/sproul-and-white-deny-incarnation.
Today's Resource: Predestination & Free Will Debate
Bob Enyart vs. Brian Schwertly
Can God change? Does He change? Has God pre-planned all events? Is your life following a complete script, written before you were born? Has it been decided in advance which, if any, of your children will go to heaven or hell?
This is the show from Tuesday, May 26th, 2020
SUMMARY:
Did God eternally decree the 2020 global shutdown and pandemic? Leading Calvinist John Piper writes in his book Coronavirus and Christ that "the sovereign God... ordains... all things." If John is correct, then I've been eternally decreed to say that he's wrong. Clearly, Bob Enyart's televised debate from the 1990s, on predestination with Calvinist pastor Brian Schwertley, is as relevant as ever. In this episode, Bob reiterates two questions that Brian and many Calvinists are loathe to answer. First, when God the Son took upon Himself a human nature, was that a change? And second, in God's potter and the clay lesson, did He complete the vessel that He first started to make, or did God make it again, into another vessel, as it seemed good to Him to make? Michigan talk show host John Mangopoulos moderates the debate on his Battle of Ideas program. Sadly but predictively, in his first comments, Bob asked, "Does the Calvinist deny that God the Son became flesh? I would hope not." Bob worried that Calvinists, even well known ones, may start denying Christianity's central doctrine, the Incarnation, to defend pagan Greek absolute immutability. Sadly, in 2014 that fear became justified when R.C. Sproul Jr. and Dr. James Write repeatedly denied that God the Son took on a human nature. See kgov.com/sproul-and-white-deny-incarnation.
Today's Resource: Predestination & Free Will Debate
Can God change? Does He change? Has God pre-planned all events? Is your life following a complete script, written before you were born? Has it been decided in advance which, if any, of your children will go to heaven or hell?