Does the Sun Move According to the Bible?

Daniel1769

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The idea of the the sun standing still in the sky seems so well established that the idea of questioning this notion seems laughable. Absurd. Utterly ridiculous and stupid. After all, the scientists say the sun is sitting there with the earth flying around it at about 67,000 miles per hour. They taught this fact to us in school. It must be true. But how do you know it is true?

You look into the sky, and throughout the day, the sun appears to move. You see the sun moving. You don't see or feel yourself moving. You were never in space to look down at earth and see it move around the sun. Yet you believe the sun is still.

What does this have to do with the Bible?

Most Christians on TOL, and most I know personally, reject the theory of evolution. They claim it is unbiblical. Most claim that is any self-described Christian accepts evolution, they simply aren't believing what the Bible clearly states. Yet they accept the heliocentric model without a second thought, even though the Bible clearly teaches that the sun moves around the earth.

Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Isaiah 38:8 Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.

Habakkuk 3:11 The sun and moon stood still in their habitation: at the light of thine arrows they went, and at the shining of thy glittering spear.

So how are we to be Biblical literalists when it comes to evolutionary theory, but dismiss the above scriptures as symbology or metaphors? Why should I not believe exactly what the Bible says? Should I fear ridicule from the same people who believe that nothing exploded and turned into everything all by itself billions of years ago?
 

Hedshaker

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The Earth has been observed from space. It does spin and it does orbit the Sun, as do all the planets in our solar system.

If the Sun really did orbit the Earth, as geocentricism suggest, then the conspiracy to keep it secret would be so huge as to render it absurd.

Therefore, the Bible is obviously wrong on this.
 

steko

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The Earth has been observed from space. It does spin and it does orbit the Sun, as do all the planets in our solar system.

If the Sun really did orbit the Earth, as geocentricism suggest, then the conspiracy to keep it secret would be so huge as to render it absurd.

Therefore, the Bible is obviously wrong on this.

Then, my weather man is wrong.
He said that the sun will go down at 5:33 PM today.
 

patrick jane

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I don't think the Bible teaches that the sun moves around the earth. Nowhere does it say the sun revolves around earth
 

False Prophet

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You can see the phases of Venus through an amateur telescope. Pictures of the earth have been relayed to us from outer space showing it to have phases just like Venus and the moon. The sun is not sitting in space like Copernicus said, but it travels around the galaxy. Contrary to popular opinion; every thing is in motion. So it depends on your reference point: looking at every thing else from your perspective. You are standing still while everything else is in motion. When Napoleon told the yogis that he was going to conquer the world, they laughed at him while they told him that all he needed was the plot of earth he was standing on.
 

Lon

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The Earth has been observed from space. It does spin and it does orbit the Sun, as do all the planets in our solar system.

If the Sun really did orbit the Earth, as geocentricism suggest, then the conspiracy to keep it secret would be so huge as to render it absurd.


Our Galaxy revolves around others, which guarantees that the sun, spinning with our galaxy, revolves around the earth as well.

Illustration: a tether ball always revolves around the pole, but with the earth spinning, while the ball is sitting still, the pole can be said to revolve around the ball as much as the ball is said to revolve around the pole.

So how are we to be Biblical literalists when it comes to evolutionary theory, but dismiss the above scriptures as symbology or metaphors? Why should I not believe exactly what the Bible says? Should I fear ridicule from the same people who believe that nothing exploded and turned into everything all by itself billions of years ago?
Therefore, the Bible is obviously wrong on this.
Has to be reworked.
 

Daniel1769

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You can see the phases of Venus through an amateur telescope. Pictures of the earth have been relayed to us from outer space showing it to have phases just like Venus and the moon. The sun is not sitting in space like Copernicus said, but it travels around the galaxy. Contrary to popular opinion; every thing is in motion. So it depends on your reference point: looking at every thing else from your perspective. You are standing still while everything else is in motion. When Napoleon told the yogis that he was going to conquer the world, they laughed at him while they told him that all he needed was the plot of earth he was standing on.

So the year is 1950. There are no government sponsored pictures of the earth from space. Prove it is moving and the sun is not.
 

Daniel1769

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The thread is getting a little off topic. The point is, does the Bible say the sun moves in relation to the earth? We're getting into pictures of Venus and tether balls. This has little to do with whether the Bible says something or not.
 

Daniel1769

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Sometimes, instead of speaking... Proverbs 17:28

See here and here

"Pedantic" is right. But neither article addresses whether or not the Bible claims that the sun moves in relation to the earth. To be more explicit, the Bible seems to be saying that the movement of the sun causes night and day. See the verses in the OP.
 
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