What say you?
What say you?
Does forgiveness require repentance?
^ThisI say most people don't have a clue what repentance means. Repentance is a change of mind...a turning....from UNBELIEF to BELIEF. Therefore, my answer would be YES. We must turn from serving idols to serving the true and living God. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will receive forgiveness of sins (saved).
1 Thessalonians 1:9
For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
Its the other way around, Repentance requires Forgiveness ! Before God grants Repentance, that individual must have already been forgiven because of Christ's death for them ! If Christ has not died for one and saved them by His Blood, they have no Right to repent, they are obligated to keep the whole Moral law of God perfectly without sinning in word, thought, action, their entire life ! If they sin once, they are guilty of breaking the whole law and will be judged according to their works in the day of Judgment without mercy !
Yes. Repentance is given only to the ones Christ died for;
not something a person performs to get forgiveness.
^This
1 Thessalonians 1:9
For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
No one of himself can turn unless God turns him.
Lam. 5:21 KJV; Psalm 80:3
Thats what a Saviour does, He gives Repentance to those He contracted to save from their sins !
beloved
1 Peter 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world,
but was manifest in these last times for you
Being foreordained speaks of the Everlasting Covenant of Grace for them:
Heb. 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus,
that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant
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nanja
Amen, and thats what Jesus does by granting His Sheep Repentance, He blesses them as stated here Acts 3:25-26
25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
Amen. He turns them from their ungodliness:
Rom. 11:26-27 And so all Israel shall be saved:
as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer,
and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
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I say most people don't have a clue what repentance means. Repentance is a change of mind...a turning....from UNBELIEF to BELIEF. Therefore, my answer would be YES. We must turn from serving idols to serving the true and living God. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will receive forgiveness of sins (saved).
1 Thessalonians 1:9
For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
Right, and we see from this passage that Gentiles were included in the saving all Israel . The Israel here is not Abraham's physical descendants, but God's Elect in Christ comprised of all nations, thats Abraham's Seed Gal 3:29
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
The Promise is Isa 45:17
17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
Yes the promise is to Spiritual Israel Isa 45:17 !Yes, Spiritual Israel; all of the Seed of Abraham Heb. 2:16 KJV;
the People He came to save Mat. 1:21 KJV; His Body the Church Eph. 5:25 KJV.
Rom. 9:6-8 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect.
For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because
they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God:
but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
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What say you?
No.
Forgiveness produces repentance . . . not vice versa.
I say most people don't have a clue what repentance means. Repentance is a change of mind...a turning....from UNBELIEF to BELIEF. Therefore, my answer would be YES. We must turn from serving idols to serving the true and living God. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will receive forgiveness of sins (saved).
1 Thessalonians 1:9
For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;