Do you know Jesus' God?

theMadThinker

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There are several times he SAID he had a God, yet most "Christian" religions worship him as well as "the Holy Ghost".
Any thoughts on this?
 

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There are several times he SAID he had a God, yet most "Christian" religions worship him as well as "the Holy Ghost".
Any thoughts on this?

When you read the bible, and encounter a scene where righteous men or angels are starting to be worshipped, every single one of them rejects the worship, even telling the ones worshipping to stop, for they are not worthy of worship.

Jesus, on the other hand, accepted the worship of those who did so.

Either Jesus was a blasphemer and thus should not be trusted at all, or He was God, and deserved every bit of worship given Him.
 

theMadThinker

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When you read the bible, and encounter a scene where righteous men or angels are starting to be worshipped, every single one of them rejects the worship, even telling the ones worshipping to stop, for they are not worthy of worship.

Jesus, on the other hand, accepted the worship of those who did so.

Either Jesus was a blasphemer and thus should not be trusted at all, or He was God, and deserved every bit of worship given Him.
It depends on which translation you use. You can't do away with what Jesus say here (and in MANY other places, as well as with other scriptures)..
 

Idolater

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There are several times he SAID he had a God, yet most "Christian" religions worship him as well as "the Holy Ghost".
Any thoughts on this?
19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, [sic]
 

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I pray to Christ. Jesus is our High Priest in heaven. "Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess" (Hebrews 4:14). And why not worship the Son of God?
 

theMadThinker

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I pray to Christ. Jesus is our High Priest in heaven. "Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess" (Hebrews 4:14). And why not worship the Son of God?
Well, if you mean giving him the Greatest Honor as our Savior and King God has given- YES!
 

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There are several times he SAID he had a God
What do you mean by your extra-Biblical phrase, "had a God"? Obviously, since the Bible does not say your phrase "has a God", the Bible does not mean anything by your phrase "has a God". And so, it would be madness to say "What does the Bible mean by @theMadThinker's phrase, 'had a God'?" Thus, if you mean anything by your phrase "had a God", a burden is on you to tell us -- who are under no burden to assume that you're not merely speaking meaninglessly therein -- exactly what (if anything) you mean by your extra-Biblical phrase "had a God".

Note that one can use "had" in numerous different ways. For example, as in:
  • "had a sandwich"
  • "had a Rottweiler"
  • "had a Camaro"
  • "had an Enron pension"
  • "had a vacation"
  • "had a question"
  • "had a dream"
  • "had a heart attack"
  • "had a baby"
  • etc.
When you say "had a God", in what way are you using "had"?

No anti-Trinitarian has ever responded rationally to this question.
 

theMadThinker

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What do you mean by your extra-Biblical phrase, "had a God"? Obviously, since the Bible does not say your phrase "has a God", the Bible does not mean anything by your phrase "has a God".
EXACTLY!
Whichever way you decide to say it, Jesus wasn't God- he HAD one!
"You, the ONLY True God!"- John 17:3
 

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EXACTLY!Whichever way you decide to say it, Jesus wasn't God- he HAD one!
"You, the ONLY True God!"- John 17:3

Again, if the verse said "ONLY You (the Father), the true God," then you would have an argument to make.

But it doesn't say that.

It says, "You (the Father), the only true God."

The Father is the only true God, just as the Son is the only true God, just as the Holy Spirit is the only true God.

The "Holy Ghost" who the Churches teach is 1/3 God.

The Holy Spirit is not a "Ghost God."

He is God. Just as the Son is God. Just as the Father is God.
 

7djengo7

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@theMadThinker wrote:
he had a God
So, I asked him/her:
What do you mean by your extra-Biblical phrase, "had a God"?
@theMadThinker: <NO ANSWER>

By your cognitively meaningless use of your extra-Biblical phrase "had a God", you have cornered yourself into being incapable of answering the question I asked you about your raving. Apparently you imagined that the next best thing for you to do, on account of your inability and failure to answer the question I asked you, is to highlight your inability and failure to answer it, by attacking it with a laughing smiley. (Even though no one believes for a second that your smiley reflects the present look on your face -- and much less is it an expression of your heart.)
 
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