Divided Body

csuguy

Well-known member
It seems that every since Martin Luther broke away from the Catholic Church with the Protestant Movement - the Protestants have continued to divide themselves over the smallest of issues! Not that Martin Luther wanted to break away - he actually wanted to reform the Catholic Church, but the Catholic Church turned around and exiled him. If it weren’t for the politics of the day he most likely would have been killed.

But back to the topic at hand - Christians today continue to divide themselves over the silliest theologies. It is good to test everything and to reach your own conclusion, but at the same time - most issues that we are divided over are quite frankly irrelevant to being a Christian. And yet time and time again, I hear one Christian calling another a heretic - I hear them saying that the other one isn’t a true Christian, and some times even a daemon!

Is it the fate of Christians to be divided to the point of having no power to do anything? Because that is what is happening! Why can’t we simply discern the basic biblical truths and unify under these? It is good to go beyond the basics - and indeed necessary for continued growth of both the individual and church. One of the church’s biggest problems is that the vast of majority of Christians are stuck as spiritual babes, but that is another post. Nevertheless - if we divide whenever we disagree then everyone will be stuck on their own private islands. Indeed, I don’t believe that I could ever fully agree with any given church.

The church too needs to be able to change. The other half of the equation is that churches refuse to allow change to their doctrines. That is why the Protestant Movement began in the first place - because the Catholic Church could not stand the thought that it might be wrong! Time and again good and honest people have tried to change the church from within - and time and again they have been thrown out as heretics. This leaves people with little choice but to either compromise their beliefs and say they believe something they don’t, or leave that church.

So then, what we need is for church’s to correctly divide the word and determine those most basic biblical truths needed to be a Christian - and allow for division beyond that point. They should of course try to guide people beyond this point, as you can get some pretty wild theories going if left unchecked, but they should not be kicked out of the church for believing something that others don’t. More specifically - they should be allowed to become priests within the church regardless of disputes of theology beyond the basics.
 

Town Heretic

Out of Order
Hall of Fame
I think Heretics get a bum wrap...is what I think...:eek:

But seriously, if it doesn't go directly to salvation we should give each other a little elbow room for disagreement and discuss our differences as men and women of a common faith. Agreed. :thumb:
 

Cracked

New member
I was thinking about this, well actually, I have been thinking about this ever since I first felt a calling on my life. This is what I have found: I have yet to encounter a Christian tradition that incorporates all of the beliefs that I have (or began to develop). Yet, I have to also be able to recognized that I may very will be misguided in some of my beliefs. This, I think is the deciding factor - fruit.

Find a group of believers that produce fruit, and if they are not completely different from you, join in and help!

This is why I have always considered joining the Salvation Army, for all of their faults (or perceived faults).

csuguy - I really do appreciate the way you think.

God's peace,
Cracked
 

zippy2006

New member
The church too needs to be able to change. The other half of the equation is that churches refuse to allow change to their doctrines.

Quite honestly, if this happened there would be no Church today, maybe no Christianity :idunno: It would turn the Church into a democracy, which it isn't and was never meant to be.

And where the line gets drawn as far as "important issues" go will be different according to everyone. Personally I think that some of the earliest Fathers who would have dubbed you a heretic were charged with a serious mission from God and were necessary for the survival of Christianity. Frankly, all of these problems lend support to the idea of an infallible Pope :idea: As much as people don't like the concept (like anything that requires faith), it is very logical and perfectly necessary as many great theologians have pointed out (Newman especially comes to mind).

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