De Niro’s F-bomb

Danoh

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"...For whatever reasons, Trump is pursuing his own polarization agenda, cranking up the volume on his divisive brand of politics. But the patriotic response — the approach that will strengthen the United States and its allies against these historic threats — is reasoned discourse and patient goodwill. “Fire” is no longer the only F-word dangerous to shout in a crowded theater."

For the balance of this article, click on the link below.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...78aca903bbe_story.html?utm_term=.c20d673e21a0
 

The Barbarian

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Orwell was writing in 1946, five or seven years before scholarly works by Hannah Arendt, on the one hand, and Karl Friedrich, on the other, provided the definitions of totalitarianism that are still in use today. Orwell’s own “Nineteen Eighty-Four,” which provides the visceral understanding of totalitarianism that we still conjure up today, was a couple of years away. Orwell was in the process of imagining totalitarianism—he had, of course, never lived in a totalitarian society.

He imagined two major traits of totalitarian societies: one is lying, and the other is what he called schizophrenia. He wrote, “The organized lying practiced by totalitarian states is not, as it is sometimes claimed, a temporary expedient of the same nature as military deception. It is something integral to totalitarianism, something that would still continue even if concentration camps and secret police forces had ceased to be necessary.” The lying entailed constantly rewriting the past to accommodate the present. “This kind of thing happens everywhere,” he wrote, “but is clearly likelier to lead to outright falsification in societies where only one opinion is permissible at any given moment. Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth.”

He goes on to imagine that “a totalitarian society which succeeded in perpetuating itself would probably set up a schizophrenic system of thought, in which the laws of common sense held good in everyday life and in certain exact sciences, but could be disregarded by the politician, the historian, and the sociologist.”

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-...well-predicted-the-challenge-of-writing-today
 

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"...For whatever reasons, Trump is pursuing his own polarization agenda, cranking up the volume on his divisive brand of politics. But the patriotic response — the approach that will strengthen the United States and its allies against these historic threats — is reasoned discourse and patient goodwill. “Fire” is no longer the only F-word dangerous to shout in a crowded theater."

For the balance of this article, click on the link below.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...78aca903bbe_story.html?utm_term=.c20d673e21a0

The problem is that reasoned discourse is not the collective strength nor in the intrest of your garden variety Trump voter. Trump knows this, uses and invites this....playing the card extremely well.
 

Danoh

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Orwell was writing in 1946, five or seven years before scholarly works by Hannah Arendt, on the one hand, and Karl Friedrich, on the other, provided the definitions of totalitarianism that are still in use today. Orwell’s own “Nineteen Eighty-Four,” which provides the visceral understanding of totalitarianism that we still conjure up today, was a couple of years away. Orwell was in the process of imagining totalitarianism—he had, of course, never lived in a totalitarian society.

He imagined two major traits of totalitarian societies: one is lying, and the other is what he called schizophrenia. He wrote, “The organized lying practiced by totalitarian states is not, as it is sometimes claimed, a temporary expedient of the same nature as military deception. It is something integral to totalitarianism, something that would still continue even if concentration camps and secret police forces had ceased to be necessary.” The lying entailed constantly rewriting the past to accommodate the present. “This kind of thing happens everywhere,” he wrote, “but is clearly likelier to lead to outright falsification in societies where only one opinion is permissible at any given moment. Totalitarianism demands, in fact, the continuous alteration of the past, and in the long run probably demands a disbelief in the very existence of objective truth.”

He goes on to imagine that “a totalitarian society which succeeded in perpetuating itself would probably set up a schizophrenic system of thought, in which the laws of common sense held good in everyday life and in certain exact sciences, but could be disregarded by the politician, the historian, and the sociologist.”

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-...well-predicted-the-challenge-of-writing-today

A thought - wouldn't that be more a Double-Binding System, than a Schizophrenic one?

Which is what the Trump-Kim summit manifested, bigly.

Then again, the one is an infamous tyrant, the other an often publicly admitting admirer of (and a would be) tyrant.
 
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