Crow's pick 11-12-04
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tied for first....
tied for first....
Once in a while there is more than one post in one day that deserves recognition. It's a tie, because both of these are great!
:first:POTD Sozo!:bannana:
Of course I can Philip!
For some reason you have a hard time separating the things Jesus said, that point to Him for salvation, from the our responsibility to maintain order and to discipline those who want to bring disorder.
From your first post, you appear to suggest that if Arafat had repented and come to Christ, that we should also forgive him for his acts of terrorism. In other threads, you have hinted at the same ideas, and you could not be more wrong!
I hope Arafat did repent on His death bed, even in his last breath, if possible. I deseire that ALL men everywhere repent, and come to Christ and are forgiven of ALL their sins. But that, by no means, removes them from civil penalties.
I believe you told me that you have children. If your child was told not to play ball in the house, and yet did, broke a window, and then came to you and asked for forgiveness, would you forgive them? Of course you would, but they would still need to be punished for their misdeed, otherwise they lose all disrespect for you and the law. After I spank my children for misbehavior, I also hold them in my arms and comfort them.
Many death row inmates are very repentive for the things that they did, and many of them come to Christ, but they should still be executed.
You attributed the comments of Jesus about "peacemakers" being blessed, but you attributed it to your pacifisitic tendancies. The "peacemakers" are those who preach the reconciliation between God and man, not those who bring peace between man and man. However, there should be peace between man and man once both have been reconciled to God, but that does not mean that we allow some sort of brotherly anarchy. Paul speaks plenty concerning church discipline, and he also speaks to those who rebel against their parents, and the governing authorities. Man's salvation does free him from God's law for righteousness, and he is free from God's wrath that comes on those who do not obey the gospel. But, his flesh is still under a death penalty, and in this life, he will still reap what he sows.
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tied for first....
Once in a while there is more than one post in one day that deserves recognition. It's a tie, because both of these are great!
:first:POTD Sozo!:bannana:
Of course I can Philip!
For some reason you have a hard time separating the things Jesus said, that point to Him for salvation, from the our responsibility to maintain order and to discipline those who want to bring disorder.
From your first post, you appear to suggest that if Arafat had repented and come to Christ, that we should also forgive him for his acts of terrorism. In other threads, you have hinted at the same ideas, and you could not be more wrong!
I hope Arafat did repent on His death bed, even in his last breath, if possible. I deseire that ALL men everywhere repent, and come to Christ and are forgiven of ALL their sins. But that, by no means, removes them from civil penalties.
I believe you told me that you have children. If your child was told not to play ball in the house, and yet did, broke a window, and then came to you and asked for forgiveness, would you forgive them? Of course you would, but they would still need to be punished for their misdeed, otherwise they lose all disrespect for you and the law. After I spank my children for misbehavior, I also hold them in my arms and comfort them.
Many death row inmates are very repentive for the things that they did, and many of them come to Christ, but they should still be executed.
You attributed the comments of Jesus about "peacemakers" being blessed, but you attributed it to your pacifisitic tendancies. The "peacemakers" are those who preach the reconciliation between God and man, not those who bring peace between man and man. However, there should be peace between man and man once both have been reconciled to God, but that does not mean that we allow some sort of brotherly anarchy. Paul speaks plenty concerning church discipline, and he also speaks to those who rebel against their parents, and the governing authorities. Man's salvation does free him from God's law for righteousness, and he is free from God's wrath that comes on those who do not obey the gospel. But, his flesh is still under a death penalty, and in this life, he will still reap what he sows.
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e4e and I in the same day!! :bannana:
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Yours is best Sozo:up:
You both did great!
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