The battle at issue is clearly defined: Is God's creation good or not? And so far, the creationists are not even present on the field of battle.
Until the covid-19 foolishness came to the world, I had no idea just how many people, sadly, live in fear of getting sick. And it seems to me that most all of the fear is attributed to something that God gets the blame for.
Now, the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord, I get that and It is without doubt a truism. But I am not talking about salvation or judgement, I am referring to what God has made. We can see and we have been told by God Himself that creation is good. But christian after christian equivocate as to whether creation is good, it is an untenable position for the church.
Of course, I am not talking about things that are seen, like alligators, spiders and snakes as no one that I know of is cowering in fear over those created crawling creatures. And I have never ever ran across a single person in my life that thinks God was cursing the earth and man by making all those creepy crawlers. I am talking about the unseen foundations of life on earth.
My world view has changed by witnessing the delusions that have been conjured up in the advent of covid-19. I just can’t believe how many people are freaked out over something that God created.
The fear is mind boggling and for me, life changing. But the most disturbing aspect of it is . . . that Christians seem to be the most cautious, and the most in fear. Christian’s on TOL are reluctant to even acknowledge that God's creation is good, it’s tragic.
While creation scientists are out beating the dead horse of evolution, again and again, almost every Christian that I know is afraid of what God has created. I never saw this disbelief in Christians until now, perhaps you didn’t either?
What is the solution? That is easy . . . we need to make the case to Christian’s, unequivocally, that God’s creation is, exactly like He said . . . good.
At this moment, it seems to me that, the "christian" argument against God’s creation being good, is that: His creation was incomplete and or He needed to add to creation as part of a curse. Both in my opinion are ridicules’ but maybe I am missing something. So, I want to put out quickly why I see those suppositions as foolish.
1st Was creation incomplete?
It says, about as clearly as it can be said, in the Bible, that God rested after finishing His creation. Then it says, just as clearly, that God looked at His creation (which I love) and said it was good. One or both of those declarative statements has to be a figure of speech if you’re saying that He created more things latter on.
God, rightly so, made a big deal out of His creation, and now some are postulating that He creates again without saying a thing? That doesn’t ring true to me at all. And personally, I have a problem with God creating bad things, He can do it, but I don’t see Him doing it and then remaining silent as to the nature of those bad things.
God’s creation of life is exponentially more abundant at the microscopic level then it is in the observable spectrum, and Christian’s want to say that some or all of the microscopic world was an after thought or a curse? It is ridicules.
Realistically we know that life is absolutely unsustainable without its microscopic foundation. And that foundation is intertwined in irreducibly complex manners, it could not be an afterthought. Each individual part could not exist apart from one another. They complement and complete each other.in an extremely complex matrix of complex workings that boggles the mind.
2nd Are viruses part of a curse?
God told Adam and Eve exactly what their individual curses were. I mean it is extraordinary just how much detail our Father gave Adam and Eve (us) on their (our) curses. God is a good Father and any curse/punishment that He would decide on for His children, would be up front and well known. A “secrete curse” is in no way in the character of a good father. And the “secrete curse” that many a Christian allude to (viruses), didn’t work . . . as Adam lived for close to 1000 years! No microscopic curse caused any early death for him or his progeny, before the flood.
One of the foundational problems with people’s belief that viruses are bad, along with the failure of the Christian creationist, is that we only hear about the viruses that seem, on a knee jerk reaction level, to be bad. We never hear about the overwhelming number of good viruses. This is a problem that starts with the misnomer of our “immune system.”
We have a system of white blood cells designed by God that is far more like a “fire wall” in your computer than it is an “immune system”. In that it is far more important what the white cells let into our bodies than what they keep out. A name I like is God’s “white fire wall” or just "whitewall". That image paints a much better picture of what our white cells do for us. Our so called immune system is more about letting the good stuff in and far less about keeping the bad stuff out . . . because there is far more good in creation and very little bad.
There are countless viruses and ten's of thousand of different strains of bacteria. We know next to nothing about most of them and how they interact with our white cells. But we do know that our whitewall is not as good as Adam and Eve’s whitewall would have been. Entropy is likely one reason for our whitewall's decline, although I don’t think that is a major part of its decline. I attribute any minor decline in our whitewall’s ability to do a perfect job, to the following: Entropy, overuse of antibiotics, overuse of “sanitizers”, over regulated food chain, lack of physical stress, and the readily availability of good viruses.
Article on point: https://www.pnas.org/content/114/7/1433
I think the above article is worth reading, but specifically there are two quotes that I will pull.
Pull Quote 1. Sally Bloomfield, regarding white blood cells.
“It's not about just learning what to attack, but learning what to tolerate.”—Sally Bloomfield
Pull Quote 2. Clean vs. sterile.
. . . “some experts now speak of “targeted hygiene”—eliminating the spread of pathogens while promoting steps to restore a diverse microbiome. For example, one can teach children to wash their hands after handling raw chicken but also encourage them to play outside in the dirt. “If your child has been out in the garden and comes in with slightly grubby hands, I, personally, would let them come in and munch a sandwich without washing,” says Rook.
Sanitizers are not good for everyday life, antibiotics have not always been needed, but viruses have always been needed. Clean is good sterile is not.
Another reason that viruses had to have been created during creation. Viruses are much more interactive with bacteria then they are with DNA. These symbiotic relations are known as micro and macrophages and are well known and appear to be mandatory for a healthy microscopic life.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8423/
The interaction between, bacteria, viruses, and the whitewall are not well understood, yet they have worked almost flawlessly in our past . . . and Christians today say it is probably a result of a curse? I don’t get it.
WARNING, WARNING, WARNING . . . Junk viruses, are coming to the creationist near you. Just like junk DNA . . . when a “scientist” comes across a virus that they have no idea why it exists, they are going to say it must be a “junk” virus . . . LOL. It is predictable and comical.
https://phys.org/news/2020-04-defense-viruses-harmless-beneficial.html
I am in no way a creationist, not because I don’t believe in creation, as I know it is true. I just don’t like beating the dead horse of evolution. In my opinion it is not necessary to convince people of creation . . . all one needs to do is look around, creation could not be more obvious. In my opinion the much more important argument at hand is to convince Christians that His creation, was and is good.
Until the covid-19 foolishness came to the world, I had no idea just how many people, sadly, live in fear of getting sick. And it seems to me that most all of the fear is attributed to something that God gets the blame for.
Now, the beginning of wisdom is the fear of the Lord, I get that and It is without doubt a truism. But I am not talking about salvation or judgement, I am referring to what God has made. We can see and we have been told by God Himself that creation is good. But christian after christian equivocate as to whether creation is good, it is an untenable position for the church.
Of course, I am not talking about things that are seen, like alligators, spiders and snakes as no one that I know of is cowering in fear over those created crawling creatures. And I have never ever ran across a single person in my life that thinks God was cursing the earth and man by making all those creepy crawlers. I am talking about the unseen foundations of life on earth.
My world view has changed by witnessing the delusions that have been conjured up in the advent of covid-19. I just can’t believe how many people are freaked out over something that God created.
The fear is mind boggling and for me, life changing. But the most disturbing aspect of it is . . . that Christians seem to be the most cautious, and the most in fear. Christian’s on TOL are reluctant to even acknowledge that God's creation is good, it’s tragic.
While creation scientists are out beating the dead horse of evolution, again and again, almost every Christian that I know is afraid of what God has created. I never saw this disbelief in Christians until now, perhaps you didn’t either?
What is the solution? That is easy . . . we need to make the case to Christian’s, unequivocally, that God’s creation is, exactly like He said . . . good.
At this moment, it seems to me that, the "christian" argument against God’s creation being good, is that: His creation was incomplete and or He needed to add to creation as part of a curse. Both in my opinion are ridicules’ but maybe I am missing something. So, I want to put out quickly why I see those suppositions as foolish.
1st Was creation incomplete?
It says, about as clearly as it can be said, in the Bible, that God rested after finishing His creation. Then it says, just as clearly, that God looked at His creation (which I love) and said it was good. One or both of those declarative statements has to be a figure of speech if you’re saying that He created more things latter on.
God, rightly so, made a big deal out of His creation, and now some are postulating that He creates again without saying a thing? That doesn’t ring true to me at all. And personally, I have a problem with God creating bad things, He can do it, but I don’t see Him doing it and then remaining silent as to the nature of those bad things.
God’s creation of life is exponentially more abundant at the microscopic level then it is in the observable spectrum, and Christian’s want to say that some or all of the microscopic world was an after thought or a curse? It is ridicules.
Realistically we know that life is absolutely unsustainable without its microscopic foundation. And that foundation is intertwined in irreducibly complex manners, it could not be an afterthought. Each individual part could not exist apart from one another. They complement and complete each other.in an extremely complex matrix of complex workings that boggles the mind.
2nd Are viruses part of a curse?
God told Adam and Eve exactly what their individual curses were. I mean it is extraordinary just how much detail our Father gave Adam and Eve (us) on their (our) curses. God is a good Father and any curse/punishment that He would decide on for His children, would be up front and well known. A “secrete curse” is in no way in the character of a good father. And the “secrete curse” that many a Christian allude to (viruses), didn’t work . . . as Adam lived for close to 1000 years! No microscopic curse caused any early death for him or his progeny, before the flood.
One of the foundational problems with people’s belief that viruses are bad, along with the failure of the Christian creationist, is that we only hear about the viruses that seem, on a knee jerk reaction level, to be bad. We never hear about the overwhelming number of good viruses. This is a problem that starts with the misnomer of our “immune system.”
We have a system of white blood cells designed by God that is far more like a “fire wall” in your computer than it is an “immune system”. In that it is far more important what the white cells let into our bodies than what they keep out. A name I like is God’s “white fire wall” or just "whitewall". That image paints a much better picture of what our white cells do for us. Our so called immune system is more about letting the good stuff in and far less about keeping the bad stuff out . . . because there is far more good in creation and very little bad.
There are countless viruses and ten's of thousand of different strains of bacteria. We know next to nothing about most of them and how they interact with our white cells. But we do know that our whitewall is not as good as Adam and Eve’s whitewall would have been. Entropy is likely one reason for our whitewall's decline, although I don’t think that is a major part of its decline. I attribute any minor decline in our whitewall’s ability to do a perfect job, to the following: Entropy, overuse of antibiotics, overuse of “sanitizers”, over regulated food chain, lack of physical stress, and the readily availability of good viruses.
Article on point: https://www.pnas.org/content/114/7/1433
I think the above article is worth reading, but specifically there are two quotes that I will pull.
Pull Quote 1. Sally Bloomfield, regarding white blood cells.
“It's not about just learning what to attack, but learning what to tolerate.”—Sally Bloomfield
Pull Quote 2. Clean vs. sterile.
. . . “some experts now speak of “targeted hygiene”—eliminating the spread of pathogens while promoting steps to restore a diverse microbiome. For example, one can teach children to wash their hands after handling raw chicken but also encourage them to play outside in the dirt. “If your child has been out in the garden and comes in with slightly grubby hands, I, personally, would let them come in and munch a sandwich without washing,” says Rook.
Sanitizers are not good for everyday life, antibiotics have not always been needed, but viruses have always been needed. Clean is good sterile is not.
Another reason that viruses had to have been created during creation. Viruses are much more interactive with bacteria then they are with DNA. These symbiotic relations are known as micro and macrophages and are well known and appear to be mandatory for a healthy microscopic life.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK8423/
The interaction between, bacteria, viruses, and the whitewall are not well understood, yet they have worked almost flawlessly in our past . . . and Christians today say it is probably a result of a curse? I don’t get it.
WARNING, WARNING, WARNING . . . Junk viruses, are coming to the creationist near you. Just like junk DNA . . . when a “scientist” comes across a virus that they have no idea why it exists, they are going to say it must be a “junk” virus . . . LOL. It is predictable and comical.
https://phys.org/news/2020-04-defense-viruses-harmless-beneficial.html
I am in no way a creationist, not because I don’t believe in creation, as I know it is true. I just don’t like beating the dead horse of evolution. In my opinion it is not necessary to convince people of creation . . . all one needs to do is look around, creation could not be more obvious. In my opinion the much more important argument at hand is to convince Christians that His creation, was and is good.
