This is to livelystone
I agree that the (soul) cannot produce anything of eternal value.
But the spirit of a man is the field that God plants and grows the fruits of the Spirit, for an eternal reaping and sowing principle.
Also we impact each other by The Life and the Love Christ is growing in us individually.
We initially experience Christ through His yielded vessels preaching to and loving us with His Love.
Ephesians 3:16 that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may be able to comprehend with all the [m]saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19 and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fullness of God.
It is the intent of the Spirit to strengthen our inner man/spirit so that
we can (comprehend) that word is defined as experience.
The love of God so fully that we are trustworthy In Christ to be filled with (all) the fullness of God.
maybe we are splitting hairs on definitions not sure. but to summarize
yes our (soul) is not able to fathom God
But our born again spirit was birthed for that very purpose of being strengthened to do so.
Hello, Word Based Mystic
I understand the theory within the theology you speak........ however we were not given the Spirit that is Christ in us to teach us but to become us after Adam in us dies the death he has already been sentenced to.
To explain this in more detail,
All spirits are neither holy or good and this includes the spirit of man (Adam in us)
Each spirit has its own soul that is essentially the mind along with its knowledge, will, and emotions. The spirit of man brings forth the mind of man while on the other hand the Spirit of God will begat the mind of Christ providing the person it resides in learns the truth.
The spirit of man is an earthly spirit, and because of sin in it, it is an unclean spirit. However, the Spirit of God is from heaven and because it is without any sin, and is from above, it is a Holy Spirit.
Spirit is male and the soul is female albeit in the original languages the spirit of God is deity that is not labeled male or female although God is Father and Jesus is obviously male. Because spirit is male and the soul is female, the soul comes from the spirit, and is the reason David addressed his soul in feminine terms such as "darling".
God is a Spirit with a soul the same as man is a spirit with a soul, therefore, man was created in the image of God. However, the spirit in man is an earthly unclean spirit (because of sin living in it) that is why Adam is sentenced to death.
Adam got his start with a spirit coming from the breath of God, but because of sin Adam became unclean, and along with Eve they were both sentenced to death.
The spirit of man in persons before the Cross is Adam who has its own soul who is Eve. When the Spirit that is the seed of Christ comes into us, Adam in us gets the boot from the heart. Unfortunately what happens next is played out in the parable of the unclean spirit (Matt.12:43-45 & Luke 11:24-26 KJV)who when after it gets the boot from the heart of man goes no further than the flesh of man made from the dry places that is the dust of the earth where it teams up with the unclean soul of man and together return to the heart leaving the person worse off than they were before first coming to Christ. (remember when Adam and Eve became one flesh?)
The Spirit that comes into persons from the Cross and the Blessings of Pentecost is the Holy Spirit of God who comes to us in the name of Jesus. If the person has been taught the truth, Adam aka the spirit of man technically died at the Cross leaving Eve still in our flesh who is the soul of man aka the mind of man. (simply put)
A person worshipping in spirit and in truth will follow the leading of the Holy Spirit and not pay attention to the soul of man......... if this were the case then what you are saying about the relationship between the spirit and soul would be true albeit Eve is still under a sentence of death. (for those who have ears that hear may see the prophecy yet to unfold in the story recorded in Acts 5:1-10 KJV
Unfortunately, as many who think they are worshipping in spirit and in truth is matched by almost identical number consisting of those who are not worshipping in truth!
Regrettably, rather than Christ being resurrected in Christians (that is what the untold truth of the hope of "our resurrection" is) after they have been crucified with Him, (when Adam in us was supposed to have died) through the truth being heard coming from the Word of God that would cause it to mature from a simple seed that is Christ into a fruit bearing tree of life in the expressed image of whom the seed (life) came from in the Blood of Christ sprinkled upon the temple of our hearts; the unclean spirit of man is allowed to return all because the truth has not been taught to the church since the falling away that started with the death of the last apostle.
The spirit of man can never produce the soul and mind of God that is the balance held in reserve for the earnest (means partial payment) of the Holy Spirit already given us....... aka the salvation of our soul
In short and in Cliff Note form........ the same as the Holy Spirit had to come from heaven, so must the mind of Christ within the soul of God come to us from heaven
1Pet.1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
Blessings to you,
Doug