Catholics Should Believe Their First Pope

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[Catholics Should Believe Their First Pope Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries] "The apostle Peter played a prominent role in the early church. Soon after he abandoned his career as a fisherman to follow Christ, he became a fisher of men. Several of his sermons were recorded in the Book of Acts, and his two epistles are included in the divinely inspired Scriptures. Since Catholics :eek:linger: have been taught that Peter was their first pope, I have developed some questions to shed some light on his theology, ecclesiology, and soteriology. All of the answers come directly from his writings and sermons. It is my prayer that those of us who have been sanctified by the truth will share these glorious truths with our Catholic friends and loved ones. :poly:

Peter, were you the first pope and the supreme head of the first century church?

"As a fellow elder, I exhort the elders among you... to shepherd the flock of God." (1 Pet. 5:1-3)

Are you the rock upon which Jesus would build His church?

Jesus is "a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God, chosen and precious... The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone and a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense. They stumble because they disobey the word." (1 Pet. 2:4,7-8)

Were you infallible?

Paul opposed me to my face because I was not in step with the truth of the Gospel.(Gal. 2:11,14)

Should we confess our sins to priests?

Repent of your wickedness and pray to God that your sins may be forgiven. (Acts 8:22)

Should we pray to Mary and the saints?

Pray to God. (Acts 8:22)

Can anyone be saved apart from the Lord Jesus Christ?

"There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:12)

What would you say to Pope Francis who teaches that atheists can follow their conscience into heaven?

"There will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction." "The ignorant and unstable twist Paul's letters to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures." (2 Peter 2:1; 3:16)

Can anyone be certain that they have inherited eternal life?

God has caused believers to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven and protected by the power of God through faith. (1 Pet. 1:3-5)

Is it possible for God's grace or indulgences to be purchased for the remission of sins?

God ransoms us "not with perishable things such as silver or gold, but with the precious blood of Christ." (1 Pet. 1:18-19)

Can a person be born again through water baptism?

The only way to be regenerated is to be "born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God." (1 Pet. 1:23)

Should Jesus Christ be made a sin offering during the sacrifice of the Mass?

Christ suffered "once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit" (1 Pet. 3:18).

Is the Catholic priesthood necessary to mediate between God and man?

Every believer, who is called out of darkness into Christ's marvelous light, is made a priest for the purpose of offering spiritual sacrifices to God and proclaiming His perfections (1 Pet. 2:9).

Should Jesus continue to be pictured as a dead man hanging on a cross or as a baby in Mary's arms?

The resurrected Christ has "gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him." (1 Pet. 3:21-22)

What should we do in these days of great deception?

Take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (2 Pet 3:17-18)

There is a profound contrast between the divinely inspired teachings of Peter and the fallible, ungodly opinions of Pope Francis. The enormous disparity between the instruction of these two men Catholics call "pope" shows how far the Roman Catholic Church has departed from the faith of the apostles. May God give us all a greater compassion for the many victims of religious deception. Read more contrasts between Peter and Francis here." Pro-Gospel.org
 

Cruciform

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[...Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries]
A claim is only as good as its source. Try again.

...I have developed some questions...
I'll answer, say, the first four of these to show the faulty reasoning and poor exegesis behind these questions...

Peter, were you the first pope and the supreme head of the first century church?

"As a fellow elder, I exhort the elders among you... to shepherd the flock of God." (1 Pet. 5:1-3)
Non Sequitur Fallacy and poor exegesis. The fact that Peter calls himself a "fellow elder" in no way negates the fact that he held a position of authority among the apostles, any more than the U.S. President saying "My fellow Americans..." negates the greater authority of his office. Try again.

Are you the rock upon which Jesus would build His church?

Jesus is "a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God, chosen and precious... The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone and a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offense. They stumble because they disobey the word." (1 Pet. 2:4,7-8)
Non Sequitur Fallacy and poor exegesis. I've already decisively answered this here. Try again.

Were you infallible?

Paul opposed me to my face because I was not in step with the truth of the Gospel.(Gal. 2:11,14)
Straw Man Fallacy and poor exegesis. Here it's clear that you utterly fail to comprehend the doctrine of papal infallibility. You confuse infallibility (the inability to teach error in matters of doctrine and morals) with impeccability (the inability to commit personal sins). The Catholic Church teaches the former, not the latter.

Regarding the text you quoted, it should be noted that Peter is rebuked not for his doctrine or teaching, but for failing to follow his own infallible teaching of the Gospel. Thus, Paul corrected Peter regarding his (Peter's) behavior, not his (Peter's) doctrine. Therefore, Paul's confrontation with Peter had nothing to do with Peter's infallibility as a teacher, but only with his personal behavior (sin) that contradicted that infallible teaching. Try again.

Should we confess our sins to priests?

Repent of your wickedness and pray to God that your sins may be forgiven. (Acts 8:22)
Non Sequitur Fallacy and poor exegesis. The mere fact that we can receive forgiveness from God directly does not negate the normative sacramental means established by Christ for dealing with serious sins and for being reconciled to the Lord. For example, see this and this. Try again.


So much for Gendron's/serpent's ability to think according to sound logic, and to exegete the Bible accurately. His entire OP, therefore, may simply be dismissed as demonstrably irrational and strightforwardly unbiblical.

Moving on... :yawn:



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Peter was an apostle. RCC thinks St Linus might be the first pope. Lots of "could be", "might be", "possibly the first", "may be". With all those second guessing, apostolic succession got broken on day one.
 

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"The spiritual person evaluates everything but is subject to no one else's evaluation." 1 Corinthians 2:15. Please post your rebuttal.
Then every individual who claims to be "spiritual" has the very same "authority" that you claim to possess---including the countless Christian believers who would categorically disagree with you on any given point of doctrine. Correct?



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Post your proof.


You reject our proof, even though it be Gods word, we have no more proof than that. We post scriptures all of the time and you just keep rejecting them just go through all of the threads on Catholicism.

Revelation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

According to Gods word we have authority through Christ our Lord.


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glassjester

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You reject our proof, even though it be Gods word, we have no more proof than that. We post scriptures all of the time and you just keep rejecting them just go through all of the threads on Catholicism.

Isn't it arrogant to assume that if everyone could just understand things as well as you do, they would come to your same conclusions?

It implies that you understand things better than anyone else - that disagreement is just error on the part of your opposition.
 

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[Mike Gendron's TV Interview Challenges "Infallible" Pope Proclaiming the Gospel Ministries] "Mike was interviewed by Dr. David Reagan on the impact Pope Francis is having on the growing ecumenical movement and his attempt to rebuild the religious "Tower of Babel." The interview was featured on the Christ in Prophecy TV program that was broadcast on the Trinity Broadcasting Network and Daystar.

Since the programs aired, we have taken orders for thousands of our Gospel tracts and hundreds of copies of my book Preparing for Eternity and DVDs to reach Catholics. Jane and I have had many encouraging phone conversations with people, especially with Catholics who have been challenged by what they saw and heard! What a joy it has been to minister to so many people and to glorify our great God and Savior! One elderly man called to say he is a Catholic Christian and has been teaching Bible studies in his Catholic Church. He said my interview made him realize that he must call Catholics to repent of everything that has been added to the Gospel. I discipled him for nearly an hour, and he now knows that he can no longer participate in the Sacrifice of the Mass or the sacraments. He is also now aware that he may be asked to leave the church when he starts proclaiming Christ as the all-sufficient Savior and distributes our resources in his Bible studies. You can view the program here: TV Interview on Pope's Ungodly Statements ." Pro-Gospel.org
 
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