but what has happened of Eph 4:11 ??
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and Eph 4:11 says that there are apostles today and Paul says there is !!
prove me wrong !!
dan p
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I will start with Eph 4 :1-32 it is Paul says in verse 12 with a view to equipping of the saints for the service , for work
of the ministry for building up the body of Christ .
# 2 verse 11 , and He gave // didomi , a verb , in the aorist tense , means Christ has already done it , active voice , means
it was Christ that put it into action , and is in the indictive mood , means you better believe it , and has done this action
singular , and will never be done again . so read the text again !!
Paul wrote Ephesians to the body of Christ and not to Israel !!
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Yes, Christ already chose Paul before Paul wrote any scripture. So I still don't see your point.
(Also, Christ did this [chose Paul] AFTER His earthly ministry was done).
Again, I don't get your what your issue is.
Duh
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#1 Apostle //apostolos just means messenger
# 2 evangelist // evaggelistes , means one who brings good news
# 3 prophet // prophetes is one who speaks a divine message
# 4 pastor // poimen is a shepherd
# 5 teacher // didaskolo is an instructor
# 6 and if did not have the above and only had Paul ??
# 7 verse says , with a view to the equipping of the saints for for service for work of the ministry for building
up the body of Christ !! dud !!
dan p
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Sorry, Dan... I cannot follow your thinking because you do not communicate well in English.
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It shouldn't be, as I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one.