Billy Graham's son visiting all 50 states--says: Christians, please vote!

Franklin Graham is going to the capitals of all 50 states telling Christians to vote

I hope to see you there. I don't agree with Billy Graham on absolutely everything he teaches, but his son is 100% right on the need to vote. There are a lot of very anti-Christ people running (liars, corrupted, etc)

and the media [There is NO conservative media that is widely available to all Americans] is supporting the anti-Christ candidates. I don't believe any of the Republicans are exactly anti-Christ-- except that most of them support abortion in some situations, which is anti-Christ, but the Socialists.. God help us!

Bernie seems like a likable person, until you find out he is not exactly honest either. He said the economy went downhill (my paraphrase) when Reagan was elected. Well, right after Reagan was elected, i am sure the economy DID go south on us for a time, because of Carter being there for 4 yrs. But Reagan revived it. So Sanders is being dishonest and misleading
 

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Franklin Graham is going to the capitals of all 50 states telling Christians to vote

I hope to see you there. I don't agree with Billy Graham on absolutely everything he teaches, but his son is 100% right on the need to vote. There are a lot of very anti-Christ people running (liars, corrupted, etc)

and the media [There is NO conservative media that is widely available to all Americans] is supporting the anti-Christ candidates. I don't believe any of the Republicans are exactly anti-Christ-- except that most of them support abortion in some situations, which is anti-Christ, but the Socialists.. God help us!

Bernie seems like a likable person, until you find out he is not exactly honest either. He said the economy went downhill (my paraphrase) when Reagan was elected. Well, right after Reagan was elected, i am sure the economy DID go south on us for a time, because of Carter being there for 4 yrs. But Reagan revived it. So Sanders is being dishonest and misleading

We need a John "Duke" Wayne type. Thus far, my vote goes to Trump.
The first time I voted was in 1980, and that was for Ronald Wilson Reagan.
He's the best President in my lifetime. In my opinion, of course.
 

KingdomRose

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Franklin Graham is going to the capitals of all 50 states telling Christians to vote

I hope to see you there. I don't agree with Billy Graham on absolutely everything he teaches, but his son is 100% right on the need to vote. There are a lot of very anti-Christ people running (liars, corrupted, etc)

and the media [There is NO conservative media that is widely available to all Americans] is supporting the anti-Christ candidates. I don't believe any of the Republicans are exactly anti-Christ-- except that most of them support abortion in some situations, which is anti-Christ, but the Socialists.. God help us!

Bernie seems like a likable person, until you find out he is not exactly honest either. He said the economy went downhill (my paraphrase) when Reagan was elected. Well, right after Reagan was elected, i am sure the economy DID go south on us for a time, because of Carter being there for 4 yrs. But Reagan revived it. So Sanders is being dishonest and misleading

What is the matter with you people? Didn't Jesus say to be no part of the world? Politics is so corrupt there is essentially no one out there that would disagree with that! It doesn't matter who becomes President. Nothing will get better. When Jesus comes back, he will destroy ALL of men's governments, including this one! Are you familiar with any of Christ's teachings? Did HE ever get involved with the politics of Rome? No, he directed people to God's Kingdom---the government that he, Jesus, would be the King of.

Read Daniel 2:44 and Revelation 19:11-21 for a start.

BTW, to actively SUPPORT this world's political systems, you are putting a mark on your own head and on your hand. That is what "the mark of the beast" is.

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How many times do we have to go through this:
Trump is the next president.
If you aren't voting for him, just save yourself the trouble and stay home.

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What is the matter with you people? Didn't Jesus say to be no part of the world? Politics is so corrupt there is essentially no one out there that would disagree with that! It doesn't matter who becomes President. Nothing will get better. When Jesus comes back, he will destroy ALL of men's governments, including this one! Are you familiar with any of Christ's teachings? Did HE ever get involved with the politics of Rome? No, he directed people to God's Kingdom---the government that he, Jesus, would be the King of.

Read Daniel 2:44 and Revelation 19:11-21 for a start.

BTW, to actively SUPPORT this world's political systems, you are putting a mark on your own head and on your hand. That is what "the mark of the beast" is.

:rip:


Daniel was in government.

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KingdomRose

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Daniel was in government.

LA

Big deal. Why do you suppose Jesus instructed his followers to be no part of the worldly governments? He was just tossing out ideas? Jehovah must've had a good reason to have Daniel in the position he was in, just as in the case of Joseph in Egypt. But Jesus shunned involvement in politics and was very clear when he said things like:

"The world has no reason to hate you, but it hates me because I testify of it that its deeds are evil." (John 7:7)

"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you." (John 15:18,19)

"These things I have spoken to you, so that in me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have conquered the world." (John 16:33)

"I have given them [the disciples] Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world." (John 17:14)

Then Jesus' brother James added: "You [spiritual] adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." (James 4:4)


You don't mind being God's enemy? Then get involved in the dirty politics of this world.
 

meshak

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Big deal. Why do you suppose Jesus instructed his followers to be no part of the worldly governments? He was just tossing out ideas? Jehovah must've had a good reason to have Daniel in the position he was in, just as in the case of Joseph in Egypt. But Jesus shunned involvement in politics and was very clear when he said things like:

"The world has no reason to hate you, but it hates me because I testify of it that its deeds are evil." (John 7:7)

"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you." (John 15:18,19)

"These things I have spoken to you, so that in me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have conquered the world." (John 16:33)

"I have given them [the disciples] Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world." (John 17:14)

Then Jesus' brother James added: "You [spiritual] adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." (James 4:4)


You don't mind being God's enemy? Then get involved in the dirty politics of this world.

well said.
 

meshak

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Addition:

John 17:14
I have given them your word and the world has
hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world.

John 17:15
My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect
them from the evil one.

.John 17:16
They are not of the world,
even as I am not of it.

.John 18:36
Jesus said, "My
kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my
arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."
 

meshak

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Christians should not get involved with the politics because it is of the world..

His followers should take heed of their Master's word.
 

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Big deal. Why do you suppose Jesus instructed his followers to be no part of the worldly governments? He was just tossing out ideas? Jehovah must've had a good reason to have Daniel in the position he was in, just as in the case of Joseph in Egypt. But Jesus shunned involvement in politics and was very clear when he said things like:

"The world has no reason to hate you, but it hates me because I testify of it that its deeds are evil." (John 7:7)

"If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you." (John 15:18,19)

"These things I have spoken to you, so that in me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have conquered the world." (John 16:33)

"I have given them [the disciples] Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world." (John 17:14)

Then Jesus' brother James added: "You [spiritual] adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." (James 4:4)


You don't mind being God's enemy? Then get involved in the dirty politics of this world.


Government is not the same thing as dirty politics.

If a local man is put forth by the citizens to represent their interests in the wider community then there is nothing wrong with that.

Babylon is described on the book of Rev.as fallen, fallen, and to get out of it.

However it has not always been fallen.

God has in the past used governments to protect its citizens, including the righteous, and used its armies to free other nations from their evil dictators.

If God uses governments at times then it must be that the Christians also honor and obey them that God has set up for the good of all.

Dan 2:37 Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
Dan 2:38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
Rom 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

1Pe 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
1Pe 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.

1Pe 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
1Pe 2:16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
1Pe 2:17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
1Pe 2:18 Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
1Pe 2:19 For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.


King David was in government.

You are in error to use the world in the way that you do.

LA
 

journey

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What is the matter with you people? Didn't Jesus say to be no part of the world? Politics is so corrupt there is essentially no one out there that would disagree with that! It doesn't matter who becomes President. Nothing will get better. When Jesus comes back, he will destroy ALL of men's governments, including this one! Are you familiar with any of Christ's teachings? Did HE ever get involved with the politics of Rome? No, he directed people to God's Kingdom---the government that he, Jesus, would be the King of.

Read Daniel 2:44 and Revelation 19:11-21 for a start.

BTW, to actively SUPPORT this world's political systems, you are putting a mark on your own head and on your hand. That is what "the mark of the beast" is.

:rip:

Groundless baloney.
 
We need a John "Duke" Wayne type. Thus far, my vote goes to Trump.
The first time I voted was in 1980, and that was for Ronald Wilson Reagan.
He's the best President in my lifetime. In my opinion, of course.

so it doesn't bother you that he lies and hasn't been a conservative EVER, that he is in favor of partial birth abortion, wants to take the citizens' property, has been bankrupt 4 times, lies about the other candidates, etc... etc..?

OK, whatever
 
Sanders has a chance of winning because neither Dems nor Reps really care about the poor, but strangely, poor people vote just the same. And sometimes the poor get really tired of just always getting the short end of the stick, so maybe some poor Rs will vote for Sanders? I know some will. Because they know that the Rs never do what they say they are going to do anyway, so--Hey, why not get some free stuff for a change?

Well, what people forget is that the Senate & House are both Republican, so how the heck is a President Sanders going to get anything passed in Congress that would pass out free stuff?

If everyone were not so corrupt, maybe we wouldn't have all these bewildering problems

but everyone forgets about JESUS and how he told us to live, namely he told us that if we have what we need, to be satisfied with that. But these days, no one is satisfied, everyone is a victim who wants to punish some other group, whether its the wealthy, White people or just whoever


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KingdomRose

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Christians should not get involved with the politics because it is of the world..

His followers should take heed of their Master's word.

That is very true!

James 4:4: "You [spiritual] adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God." (NASB)

You're putting on yourself the "mark of the Beast."
 
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