ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS?
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"Who worketh all things after the counsel of His own will".
Except, of course, in the case of mankind wherein each individual works "their thing" after the counsel of their own free-will.
The free-will of man is sovereign and cannot be influenced or encroached.
This means man is king and the Eternal Almighty is subject to the will of man. (It pained me to write that)
Except, of course, in the case of mankind wherein each individual works "their thing" after the counsel of their own free-will.
The free-will of man is sovereign and cannot be influenced or encroached.
This means man is king and the Eternal Almighty is subject to the will of man. (It pained me to write that)
You finally found a scripture that proves man has no free will?
oatmeal
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What all things does God work?
a. All things that He does
b. All things that God rejecters do including the devil spirits
I didn't need any proof. I know for an absolute fact that I didn't exercise anything when I was converted. I was passive while the work was done in and for me.
He created all and sustains all things:
"He is the brightness of His glory, the express image of Himself, and upholds all things by the word of His power".
"And he is before all things, and by him all things consist".
"Whatever Yah Veh pleases, He does, In heaven and in earth, in the seas and in all deeps. He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth; Who makes lightnings for the rain, Who brings forth the wind from His treasuries".
I didn't give chapter and verse in the hope you just might pick up a Bible and familiarize yourself.
"And he is before all things, and by him all things consist".
"Whatever Yah Veh pleases, He does, In heaven and in earth, in the seas and in all deeps. He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth; Who makes lightnings for the rain, Who brings forth the wind from His treasuries".
I didn't give chapter and verse in the hope you just might pick up a Bible and familiarize yourself.
Epoisses
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That must mean that God damns people before they were born. If you had half a brain you would follow your warped beliefs to their logical conclusion. We're all just lumps of clay with no personal responsibility for our decisions. Let's ordain homosexuals like the Reformed and put them in the pulpit to preach the gospel. This would be pleasing to Jesus in our clay-fashioned minds.
Epoisses
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The fruit of your twisted and warped gospel is on display for all to see. Arminians are the Pharisees and the Calvinists are the Sadducees. The gospel is still with Christ and his chosen vessels.
oatmeal
Well-known member
I did not need to review scripture to remember that God is good always, He does not use evil to accomplish good.
I John 1:5, John 10:10, III John 2 .......
Why didn't you answer my question?
The fact you add the term "always" to Elohim is Good means you don't have any idea of what Elohim is Good actually conveys.
You say that Elohim would not use evil to accomplish good? This means you have no idea of what was accomplished at Calvary.
You are blind and ignorant in spiritual truths and I find your presumptions offensive.
Is it God's will that all men should come to the knowledge of the truth? Why doesn't He force that will on us?
1 Timothy 2:4 KJV
1 Timothy 2:4 KJV
Nang
TOL Subscriber
All men will come to the knowledge of truth on Judgment Day, and every knee will bow in acknowledgment of the absolute sovereignty of God on that day.
But it will not be unto their salvation, apart from the prior saving grace and resurrection power of God.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
Didn't forget, but I employ that part to understand the meanings of "all."
For the "all" knees that bow to Christ on Judgment Day will not be "all" saved souls. Many of that "all" will be judged to the second death which is everlasting destruction in hell.
So, all that "all" describes in many instances, is "all" kinds of humanity; from every nationality, tribe, and peoples. There will not be a single race of mankind exempt from eventually coming to knowledge of God in the end, but salvation is never promised to "all" men universally.
However, a remnant will be saved and called out of every (all) nation, tribe, and peoples. Revelation 5:9, 7:9
You forget that the epistles are addressed to the holy and are a guide for the justified. Do yourself a favour and read the salutation in all the epistles. Whatever the epistles teach they teach the holy. "All" means all those that will be regenerate. Collectively called the chosen.
"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth."
All who believe are saved