Is a large Meteorite, named Hoba in Namibia, a missing link to Genesis 1:6
Hoba is ostensibly a “meteorite” that is in Namibia, Africa. Hoba is the largest/only slab of iron/nickel/cobalt ever discovered. It weighs in at 132,000 lbs. 9’ x 9’ x 3’ thick. It lies where it was discovered in 1920 by a farmer plowing a field with an ox to plant corn. Hoba left no crater or obvious path to where it resides to this day.
We are taught/told to believe by the "experts" that Hoba basically had a controlled angled decent in from space with a soft landing at more than 22K MPH and it is the ONLY meteorite in history, of that magnitude, to remain intact on impact… Believe what you want, but there is no way that Hoba came from outer-space… So, if it didn’t come from space, where did it come from?
Consider this:
Hoba is made of an alloy that today is similar to many industrial maraging steels. Hoba alloy is iron, nickel and cobalt, which make it corrosion resistant, having superior elongation, very high tensile strength under pressure and low thermal expansion. There are similar alloy used today like 18Ni by Haynes International and is aka the “asteroid” alloy. Hoba’s properties meet specific engineering requirements. *See foot note Mechanics.
Thanks to Walt Brown and others, many creationists believe that meteorites came from the flood when the fountains of the deep broke the earth open. That is what I believe and it is the premise for my thesis.
Maraging alloy steel is not found on earth in any large pieces except in the millions of meteorites. Since this steel is only found on or very near the surface on earth, it is rightly assumed that they are all meteorites. But is that true?
From the Walt Brown creationist point of view: The fact that maraging steel is only found on the surface begs the question: How did it come to be that every chunk, layer, rock, and or deposit of iron/nickel/cobalt (maraging steel) is on or near the earths surface and they all seem to be meteorites? That fact alone makes the Walt Brown creationist look misguided. Again, from the creationist view, how is the above possible? How can it be that every piece of maraging steel that was on earth went into space? Or is there a missing link?
Hoba is the missing link.
Hoba is the answer. It is the meteorite, that never made it to space, and Hoba is not alone. Here is how: Before the flood, all of the iron/nickel/cobalt steel in creation, located on earth, was as an “interface” between the water below it and the land above it. In Gen: 1:6, God talks about that interface and it is alluded to in various translations, in various figures of speech as a: dome, firmament, expanse, space, something, divider, canopy, vaulted dome, separation, horizon, and others. All of them allude to a contemporary liner between the waters in the sky and the waters below, Hoba is a piece of that liner, keeping water below it and dirt/rock from falling into the deep.
When the fountains of the deep broke open and the alloy steel dome/liner sheared in two, at the point of separation, smaller pieces broke off the liner and were then carried upward by the high-pressure water into space and elsewhere but all of them ended up either in space or on/near the surface of the earth. All meteorites are/were pieces of God's barrier between the land and water before the flood, but all of these so-called meteorites have not seen space.
The largest intact piece of the liner on the earth’s surface is Hoba, as it was just too big to be pushed into space. The vast majority of God's liner, while likely broken up, is likely still deep in the earth. And most geologist believe that the earth’s core is iron/nickel, which is a good fit. This also explains why we do find very small particles of iron/nickel on the surface, anything else found is ostensibly called a meteorite, regardless if it has ever seen space.
The Proof!
If you look at Hoba closely, one side is different than the other, that might indicate one side was in contact with land and the other side was in contact with the water for its 1700 years of service. I predicted before it was known to be so, that one side of Hoba would contain carbonates from the water below it and it would be different than the other side. I was proven to be correct. *See German Study Foot notes.
Hoba is about 250 miles from the existing coast line of Africa, how did it come to rest there? I say it slid there. When the fountains of the deep broke open Hoba broke off from the barrier/dome/liner and high-pressure water pushed Hoba up and it fell on land. With the rush of water, debris, and the entire Africa continent falling down at an angle, combined with Hoba’s inertia and then the continent coming to a halt, Hoba slid to its present position, probably in a few hours. I believe there are undoubtable other Hoba's yet to be discovered. *See Foot notes of traditional.
Conclusion: Hoba is an extant piece of God's "dome" and proof that the Genesis 1:6 is true.
Foot notes:
From deepai.com
The Namibian government does not take a specific position on the origin or origin story of the Hoba meteorite. However, the official stance is that the meteorite is of unknown origin and has been present in the area for thousands of years. **(There is no date on when the govt, took this stance but it appears it goes back to the discovery of Hoba)
There are various theories and hypotheses about the origin of the Hoba meteorite, including:
1. The traditional story is that the meteorite was brought to the area by a flood or a massive storm.
I found a few examples of oral traditions and local legends related to flooding and large chunks of iron/nickel that might be connected to the Hoba meteorite:
2. In some African cultures, there are stories about a great flood that occurred in the region where the Hoba meteorite was found. The flood is said to have been so powerful that it swept away everything in its path, leaving behind only a few remnants of the pre-flood world. Some believe that these remnants are the large chunks of iron and nickel that can be found in the region, including the Hoba meteorite.
3. In another African legend, the flood is said to have been caused by the gods themselves, who were angry with the inhabitants of the earth for their wicked ways. The gods sent a great flood to destroy the earth, but they spared a few individuals who were deemed worthy and saved them on a mountain or a rock. Some believe that these saved individuals brought with them fragments of iron and nickel from the pre-flood world, which eventually became the Hoba meteorite.
These oral traditions and local legends are not only fascinating but also provide a glimpse into the rich cultural heritage and storytelling traditions of Africa. While they may not be directly connected to the Hoba meteorite, they offer a unique perspective on the cultural significance and symbolic meaning of meteorites and other natural phenomena in African societies.
Mechanics of 3’ thick dome.
The pressure would be enormous on every square inch of the dome. With perhaps 12,000 feet of soil/dirt rock the pressure would be about 1 million pounds per square inch. Which would be a challenge for even 3 feet of maraging steel, but the steel is supported by the water below it, so the pressure is compressive.
The compressive properties of meteoritic metal are generally characterized by:
1. Low yield strength: Meteoritic metal typically has a yield strength in the range of 10-50 MPa (1,450-7,250 psi), which is relatively low compared to other metals.
2. Low ultimate strength: The ultimate strength of meteoritic metal is usually around 100-200 MPa (14,500-29,000 psi), which is also relatively low.
3. High ductility: Meteoritic metal is often highly ductile, meaning it can be deformed significantly without breaking or cracking. This is due to the presence of impurities and defects in the metal structure.
4. High strain hardening: Meteoritic metal exhibits significant strain hardening, which means that its strength increases as it is deformed. This is because the metal's crystal structure becomes more aligned and denser as it is compressed.
Conclusion: 3 and 4 make this alloy an engineer’s dream. Ductility because the moon would have raised and lowered the dome every single day and the compression of the metal was in the rage of million psi. increasing it strength.
German Study: The Proof
The top and bottom of the Hoba meteorite have been analyzed, and the results are fascinating. In 2018, a team of scientists from the University of Bremen, Germany, conducted a detailed analysis of the meteorite's surfaces using a range of techniques, including:
1. **Scanning Electron Microscopy (SEM)**: The team used SEM to examine the surface morphology of both the top and bottom of the meteorite.
2. **Energy-Dispersive X-ray Spectroscopy (EDS)**: They used EDS to analyze the chemical composition of the surfaces.
3. **X-ray Fluorescence (XRF)**: They used XRF to analyze the elemental composition of the surfaces.
4. **Micro-X-ray Computed Tomography (Micro-CT)**: They used Micro-CT to create 3D images of the meteorite's internal structure.
The analysis revealed some striking differences between the top and bottom surfaces:
1. **Surface roughness**: The top surface is smoother than the bottom surface, with a roughness average (Ra) value of 0.5 μm compared to 2.5 μm for the bottom surface.
2. **Chemical composition**: The top surface has a higher concentration of metallic iron and nickel compared to the bottom surface, which is more enriched in silicates and carbonates.
3. **Elemental distribution**: The team found that the top surface has a more uniform distribution of elements, whereas the bottom surface has a more heterogeneous distribution.
4. **Micro-structure**: The Micro-CT analysis revealed that the top surface has a more compact and recrystallized microstructure compared to the bottom surface, which is more porous and has a more complex microstructure.
These differences suggest that the top and bottom surfaces of the Hoba meteorite have undergone different processes during its formation and history in space. The top surface may have been exposed to solar wind and radiation, which could have led to its smoother texture and altered chemical composition. The bottom surface, on the other hand, may have
been buried in regolith or debris, which could have contributed to its rougher texture and more complex microstructure.
The study provides valuable insights into the formation and evolution of the Hoba meteorite, and highlights the importance of analyzing multiple surfaces and samples from a single meteorite to gain a more comprehensive understanding of its history.
I was unaware of Bob Enyart's "Global Flood and Hydroplate Theory" when I posted my beliefs that Hoba is a piece of the dome described in Genesis 1:6. After watching Bob's presentation last night: while Hoba may have been a piece of the dome, it became clear to me that, there is no doubt Hoba is a piece of the "raqia".
At min 39, in the seminar link below, Bob gives the Hebrew word and then definition for "firmament" and it fits Hoba like a glove.
In the same seminar @ the 2 hr: 38-45 min mark, Bob asks Dr. John Baumgardner a question and then the Dr. tells us his main objection to the Hydroplate theory. Baumgardner says, that the water in the deep would find its way up by tidal action "almost certainly would make its way through cracks". To me that sounds reasonable and Bob answers Baumgardner objection with, "God would have" made the earth perfect (no cracks), and then in my opinion Bob goes on for about 4 min's struggling to defend the idea that high pressure water couldn't find its way up, when eventually it did. Bob may have never considered a metal "raqia", like Hoba.
Of course Baumgardner never considered a metal "raqia" either. The good Dr.'s tragic mistake is discounting the clear teaching of the bible which, of course, I know Enyart would never do.
Hoba as the "raqia" takes away Baumgardner's objection and Enyart's struggle to explain the Dr.'s objection... leaving the Word of God fully intact.
Hoba is ostensibly a “meteorite” that is in Namibia, Africa. Hoba is the largest/only slab of iron/nickel/cobalt ever discovered. It weighs in at 132,000 lbs. 9’ x 9’ x 3’ thick. It lies where it was discovered in 1920 by a farmer plowing a field with an ox to plant corn. Hoba left no crater or obvious path to where it resides to this day.
We are taught/told to believe by the "experts" that Hoba basically had a controlled angled decent in from space with a soft landing at more than 22K MPH and it is the ONLY meteorite in history, of that magnitude, to remain intact on impact… Believe what you want, but there is no way that Hoba came from outer-space… So, if it didn’t come from space, where did it come from?
Consider this:
Hoba is made of an alloy that today is similar to many industrial maraging steels. Hoba alloy is iron, nickel and cobalt, which make it corrosion resistant, having superior elongation, very high tensile strength under pressure and low thermal expansion. There are similar alloy used today like 18Ni by Haynes International and is aka the “asteroid” alloy. Hoba’s properties meet specific engineering requirements. *See foot note Mechanics.
Thanks to Walt Brown and others, many creationists believe that meteorites came from the flood when the fountains of the deep broke the earth open. That is what I believe and it is the premise for my thesis.
Maraging alloy steel is not found on earth in any large pieces except in the millions of meteorites. Since this steel is only found on or very near the surface on earth, it is rightly assumed that they are all meteorites. But is that true?
From the Walt Brown creationist point of view: The fact that maraging steel is only found on the surface begs the question: How did it come to be that every chunk, layer, rock, and or deposit of iron/nickel/cobalt (maraging steel) is on or near the earths surface and they all seem to be meteorites? That fact alone makes the Walt Brown creationist look misguided. Again, from the creationist view, how is the above possible? How can it be that every piece of maraging steel that was on earth went into space? Or is there a missing link?
Hoba is the missing link.
Hoba is the answer. It is the meteorite, that never made it to space, and Hoba is not alone. Here is how: Before the flood, all of the iron/nickel/cobalt steel in creation, located on earth, was as an “interface” between the water below it and the land above it. In Gen: 1:6, God talks about that interface and it is alluded to in various translations, in various figures of speech as a: dome, firmament, expanse, space, something, divider, canopy, vaulted dome, separation, horizon, and others. All of them allude to a contemporary liner between the waters in the sky and the waters below, Hoba is a piece of that liner, keeping water below it and dirt/rock from falling into the deep.
When the fountains of the deep broke open and the alloy steel dome/liner sheared in two, at the point of separation, smaller pieces broke off the liner and were then carried upward by the high-pressure water into space and elsewhere but all of them ended up either in space or on/near the surface of the earth. All meteorites are/were pieces of God's barrier between the land and water before the flood, but all of these so-called meteorites have not seen space.
The largest intact piece of the liner on the earth’s surface is Hoba, as it was just too big to be pushed into space. The vast majority of God's liner, while likely broken up, is likely still deep in the earth. And most geologist believe that the earth’s core is iron/nickel, which is a good fit. This also explains why we do find very small particles of iron/nickel on the surface, anything else found is ostensibly called a meteorite, regardless if it has ever seen space.
The Proof!
If you look at Hoba closely, one side is different than the other, that might indicate one side was in contact with land and the other side was in contact with the water for its 1700 years of service. I predicted before it was known to be so, that one side of Hoba would contain carbonates from the water below it and it would be different than the other side. I was proven to be correct. *See German Study Foot notes.
Hoba is about 250 miles from the existing coast line of Africa, how did it come to rest there? I say it slid there. When the fountains of the deep broke open Hoba broke off from the barrier/dome/liner and high-pressure water pushed Hoba up and it fell on land. With the rush of water, debris, and the entire Africa continent falling down at an angle, combined with Hoba’s inertia and then the continent coming to a halt, Hoba slid to its present position, probably in a few hours. I believe there are undoubtable other Hoba's yet to be discovered. *See Foot notes of traditional.
Conclusion: Hoba is an extant piece of God's "dome" and proof that the Genesis 1:6 is true.
Foot notes:
From deepai.com
The Namibian government does not take a specific position on the origin or origin story of the Hoba meteorite. However, the official stance is that the meteorite is of unknown origin and has been present in the area for thousands of years. **(There is no date on when the govt, took this stance but it appears it goes back to the discovery of Hoba)
There are various theories and hypotheses about the origin of the Hoba meteorite, including:
1. The traditional story is that the meteorite was brought to the area by a flood or a massive storm.
I found a few examples of oral traditions and local legends related to flooding and large chunks of iron/nickel that might be connected to the Hoba meteorite:
2. In some African cultures, there are stories about a great flood that occurred in the region where the Hoba meteorite was found. The flood is said to have been so powerful that it swept away everything in its path, leaving behind only a few remnants of the pre-flood world. Some believe that these remnants are the large chunks of iron and nickel that can be found in the region, including the Hoba meteorite.
3. In another African legend, the flood is said to have been caused by the gods themselves, who were angry with the inhabitants of the earth for their wicked ways. The gods sent a great flood to destroy the earth, but they spared a few individuals who were deemed worthy and saved them on a mountain or a rock. Some believe that these saved individuals brought with them fragments of iron and nickel from the pre-flood world, which eventually became the Hoba meteorite.
These oral traditions and local legends are not only fascinating but also provide a glimpse into the rich cultural heritage and storytelling traditions of Africa. While they may not be directly connected to the Hoba meteorite, they offer a unique perspective on the cultural significance and symbolic meaning of meteorites and other natural phenomena in African societies.
Mechanics of 3’ thick dome.
The pressure would be enormous on every square inch of the dome. With perhaps 12,000 feet of soil/dirt rock the pressure would be about 1 million pounds per square inch. Which would be a challenge for even 3 feet of maraging steel, but the steel is supported by the water below it, so the pressure is compressive.
The compressive properties of meteoritic metal are generally characterized by:
1. Low yield strength: Meteoritic metal typically has a yield strength in the range of 10-50 MPa (1,450-7,250 psi), which is relatively low compared to other metals.
2. Low ultimate strength: The ultimate strength of meteoritic metal is usually around 100-200 MPa (14,500-29,000 psi), which is also relatively low.
3. High ductility: Meteoritic metal is often highly ductile, meaning it can be deformed significantly without breaking or cracking. This is due to the presence of impurities and defects in the metal structure.
4. High strain hardening: Meteoritic metal exhibits significant strain hardening, which means that its strength increases as it is deformed. This is because the metal's crystal structure becomes more aligned and denser as it is compressed.
Conclusion: 3 and 4 make this alloy an engineer’s dream. Ductility because the moon would have raised and lowered the dome every single day and the compression of the metal was in the rage of million psi. increasing it strength.
German Study: The Proof
The top and bottom of the Hoba meteorite have been analyzed, and the results are fascinating. In 2018, a team of scientists from the University of Bremen, Germany, conducted a detailed analysis of the meteorite's surfaces using a range of techniques, including:
1. **Scanning Electron Microscopy (SEM)**: The team used SEM to examine the surface morphology of both the top and bottom of the meteorite.
2. **Energy-Dispersive X-ray Spectroscopy (EDS)**: They used EDS to analyze the chemical composition of the surfaces.
3. **X-ray Fluorescence (XRF)**: They used XRF to analyze the elemental composition of the surfaces.
4. **Micro-X-ray Computed Tomography (Micro-CT)**: They used Micro-CT to create 3D images of the meteorite's internal structure.
The analysis revealed some striking differences between the top and bottom surfaces:
1. **Surface roughness**: The top surface is smoother than the bottom surface, with a roughness average (Ra) value of 0.5 μm compared to 2.5 μm for the bottom surface.
2. **Chemical composition**: The top surface has a higher concentration of metallic iron and nickel compared to the bottom surface, which is more enriched in silicates and carbonates.
3. **Elemental distribution**: The team found that the top surface has a more uniform distribution of elements, whereas the bottom surface has a more heterogeneous distribution.
4. **Micro-structure**: The Micro-CT analysis revealed that the top surface has a more compact and recrystallized microstructure compared to the bottom surface, which is more porous and has a more complex microstructure.
These differences suggest that the top and bottom surfaces of the Hoba meteorite have undergone different processes during its formation and history in space. The top surface may have been exposed to solar wind and radiation, which could have led to its smoother texture and altered chemical composition. The bottom surface, on the other hand, may have
been buried in regolith or debris, which could have contributed to its rougher texture and more complex microstructure.
The study provides valuable insights into the formation and evolution of the Hoba meteorite, and highlights the importance of analyzing multiple surfaces and samples from a single meteorite to gain a more comprehensive understanding of its history.
I was unaware of Bob Enyart's "Global Flood and Hydroplate Theory" when I posted my beliefs that Hoba is a piece of the dome described in Genesis 1:6. After watching Bob's presentation last night: while Hoba may have been a piece of the dome, it became clear to me that, there is no doubt Hoba is a piece of the "raqia".
At min 39, in the seminar link below, Bob gives the Hebrew word and then definition for "firmament" and it fits Hoba like a glove.
In the same seminar @ the 2 hr: 38-45 min mark, Bob asks Dr. John Baumgardner a question and then the Dr. tells us his main objection to the Hydroplate theory. Baumgardner says, that the water in the deep would find its way up by tidal action "almost certainly would make its way through cracks". To me that sounds reasonable and Bob answers Baumgardner objection with, "God would have" made the earth perfect (no cracks), and then in my opinion Bob goes on for about 4 min's struggling to defend the idea that high pressure water couldn't find its way up, when eventually it did. Bob may have never considered a metal "raqia", like Hoba.
Of course Baumgardner never considered a metal "raqia" either. The good Dr.'s tragic mistake is discounting the clear teaching of the bible which, of course, I know Enyart would never do.
Hoba as the "raqia" takes away Baumgardner's objection and Enyart's struggle to explain the Dr.'s objection... leaving the Word of God fully intact.
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