ECT A Lot Of Stupid Logic Out There

[Squeaky]

STUDIP LOGIC

There is so much stupid logic out there, and why do people fall for it. Because of ignorance. They assume that if someone claims that they are a preacher, they must be. God only asks us to believe in His Word as the scripture has said.

John 7:38
38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."
(NKJ)

xxxGod tells us we dont even have to think beyond what is written in the Word of God.

1 Cor 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
(NKJ)

xxxBut satan is always there trying to pervert the truth. The Word says the only truth is the Word as it is written. Sanctified is the washing of water by the Word(verses).

John 17:17-19
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
18 "As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
19 "And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
(NKJ)

xxxIt says there is a milk understanding of the Word and a meat understanding of the Word.

Heb 5:13-6:3
13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
CHAPTER 6
1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this we will do if God permits.
(NKJ)

xxxIt says to get rid of your imagination. That the only weapon we have from God that we can use against the devil is the Word(verses)

2 Cor 10:3-5
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;


xxxBut we also have the glory seekers. Those who want to be the center of attention that are full of pride. Those that will turn to any logic available to keep everyone focused on them and what they say.

Things like!
Jesus never said He wasnt God.or
1Co 8-6 it doesnt say ONLY one God

xxxWith that kind of logic we will have to assume satan is God because it doesnt say "satan is not God" and it doesnt say Paul is not God so do we assume Paul is God?
1Co 8-6 says there is one God THE FATHER. But the intellectuals only use part of that verse and say they believe in one God. But that is NOT ALL IT SAYS. It says one God the Father.
That is called straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel. What they do is try to get you into your imagnation where they can manipulate you into believing their way. They use things from outside the Word of God to trick you into believing them instead of the Word of God.
Things like trinity, not in the Word of God, deity, not in the Word of God, God the Son, not in the Word of God, God the Holy Spirit, not in the Word of God.


xxxStupid conversations will consume your thinking. The only concern that a real believer has is, "Do I believe what is written in the Word of God? So read and prove that you do believe it the way it is written.

1 Cor 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
(NKJ)

xxxAnd nothing in the old testament can help you believe the new testament where Christ is. The only thing the old testament can do is cause you to stumble or fall from grace. And you cant find the true God in the old testament or the true Christ.

Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)

II Jn 1:8-11
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

xxxAnd you cant find out what you believe by reading someone elses opinion. Or through human wisdom. The Word of God is like Prego spagitti sause, Its in there.

Heb 4:12-13
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
(NKJ)

xxxDont be taken in by fancy words or human wisdom and logic. It is deceiving. Is your faith in what someone told you or in what is written?

1 Cor 2:4-5
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
(NKJ)

 

[Squeaky]

Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
(NKJ)

 

[Interplanner]

STUDIP LOGIC

There is so much stupid logic out there, and why do people fall for it. Because of ignorance. They assume that if someone claims that they are a preacher, they must be. God only asks us to believe in His Word as the scripture has said.

John 7:38
38 "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."
(NKJ)

xxxGod tells us we dont even have to think beyond what is written in the Word of God.

1 Cor 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
(NKJ)

xxxBut satan is always there trying to pervert the truth. The Word says the only truth is the Word as it is written. Sanctified is the washing of water by the Word(verses).

John 17:17-19
17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.
18 "As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world.
19 "And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
(NKJ)

xxxIt says there is a milk understanding of the Word and a meat understanding of the Word.

Heb 5:13-6:3
13 For everyone who partakes only of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.
14 But solid food belongs to those who are of full age, that is, those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
CHAPTER 6
1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,
2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
3 And this we will do if God permits.
(NKJ)

xxxIt says to get rid of your imagination. That the only weapon we have from God that we can use against the devil is the Word(verses)

2 Cor 10:3-5
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;


xxxBut we also have the glory seekers. Those who want to be the center of attention that are full of pride. Those that will turn to any logic available to keep everyone focused on them and what they say.

Things like!
Jesus never said He wasnt God.or
1Co 8-6 it doesnt say ONLY one God

xxxWith that kind of logic we will have to assume satan is God because it doesnt say "satan is not God" and it doesnt say Paul is not God so do we assume Paul is God?
1Co 8-6 says there is one God THE FATHER. But the intellectuals only use part of that verse and say they believe in one God. But that is NOT ALL IT SAYS. It says one God the Father.
That is called straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel. What they do is try to get you into your imagnation where they can manipulate you into believing their way. They use things from outside the Word of God to trick you into believing them instead of the Word of God.
Things like trinity, not in the Word of God, deity, not in the Word of God, God the Son, not in the Word of God, God the Holy Spirit, not in the Word of God.


xxxStupid conversations will consume your thinking. The only concern that a real believer has is, "Do I believe what is written in the Word of God? So read and prove that you do believe it the way it is written.

1 Cor 4:6
6 Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.
(NKJ)

xxxAnd nothing in the old testament can help you believe the new testament where Christ is. The only thing the old testament can do is cause you to stumble or fall from grace. And you cant find the true God in the old testament or the true Christ.

Gal 5:1-4

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.
2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing.
3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.
4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
(NKJ)

II Jn 1:8-11
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

xxxAnd you cant find out what you believe by reading someone elses opinion. Or through human wisdom. The Word of God is like Prego spagitti sause, Its in there.

Heb 4:12-13
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.
(NKJ)

xxxDont be taken in by fancy words or human wisdom and logic. It is deceiving. Is your faith in what someone told you or in what is written?

1 Cor 2:4-5
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
(NKJ)

Squeaky squirted:
And you cant find the true God in the old testament or the true Christ.


this is some of the horrible logic out there, sorry to tell you. See Gal 3:8-9.

 

[ok doser]

Squeaky squirted:
And you cant find the true God in the old testament or the true Christ.


this is some of the horrible logic out there, sorry to tell you. See Gal 3:8-9.

one might almost be tempted to call it "STUDIP" :chuckle:

 

[Interplanner]

Treu

 

[Squeaky]

Squeaky squirted:
And you cant find the true God in the old testament or the true Christ.


this is some of the horrible logic out there, sorry to tell you. See Gal 3:8-9.

I said
If you and ok doser would start reading the bible yourselves I wouldn't have to keep correcting you.
Whoever does not abide (live) in the doctrine of Christ(new testament)

II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

 

[Danoh]

Squeaky squirted:
And you cant find the true God in the old testament or the true Christ.


this is some of the horrible logic out there, sorry to tell you. See Gal 3:8-9.

:thumb:

 

[Squeaky]

:thumb:

I said
If you and ok doser would start reading the bible yourselves I wouldn't have to keep correcting you.
Whoever does not abide (live) in the doctrine of Christ(new testament)

II Jn 1:9-11
9 Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.
10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;
11 for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.
(NKJ)

 

[Derf]

STUDIP LOGIC

There is so much stupid logic out there, and why do people fall for it. Because of ignorance. They assume that if someone claims that they are a preacher, they must be. God only asks us to believe in His Word as the scripture has said.

xxxGod tells us we dont even have to think beyond what is written in the Word of God.

xxxBut satan is always there trying to pervert the truth. The Word says the only truth is the Word as it is written. Sanctified is the washing of water by the Word(verses).

xxxIt says there is a milk understanding of the Word and a meat understanding of the Word.

xxxIt says to get rid of your imagination. That the only weapon we have from God that we can use against the devil is the Word(verses)

xxxBut we also have the glory seekers. Those who want to be the center of attention that are full of pride. Those that will turn to any logic available to keep everyone focused on them and what they say.

Things like!
Jesus never said He wasnt God.or
1Co 8-6 it doesnt say ONLY one God

xxxWith that kind of logic we will have to assume satan is God because it doesnt say "satan is not God" and it doesnt say Paul is not God so do we assume Paul is God?
1Co 8-6 says there is one God THE FATHER. But the intellectuals only use part of that verse and say they believe in one God. But that is NOT ALL IT SAYS. It says one God the Father.
That is called straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel. What they do is try to get you into your imagnation where they can manipulate you into believing their way. They use things from outside the Word of God to trick you into believing them instead of the Word of God.
Things like trinity, not in the Word of God, deity, not in the Word of God, God the Son, not in the Word of God, God the Holy Spirit, not in the Word of God.

xxxStupid conversations will consume your thinking. The only concern that a real believer has is, "Do I believe what is written in the Word of God? So read and prove that you do believe it the way it is written.

xxxAnd nothing in the old testament can help you believe the new testament where Christ is. The only thing the old testament can do is cause you to stumble or fall from grace. And you cant find the true God in the old testament or the true Christ.

xxxAnd you cant find out what you believe by reading someone elses opinion. Or through human wisdom. The Word of God is like Prego spagitti sause, Its in there.

xxxDont be taken in by fancy words or human wisdom and logic. It is deceiving. Is your faith in what someone told you or in what is written?

If what you said (in yellow, above) is true, then all the rest of what you said is not only unnecessary, but it's your own imagination, and therefore is antithetical to both your premise, and your interpretation.

The fact that you felt the need to interpret what was in God's Word (since God's Word by itself wasn't enough) is logically contradictory to saying that God's Word is all that's needed.

And, finally, your question raises a dichotomy that was as false in Jesus' day (since he actually told to people to believe in Him) as it was in Paul's day (since he actually preached to people), and as it is in our day. 1 Cor 1:21b ...it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe...

What's more (despite my "finally" in the previous paragraph ), your premise will have destroyed all speech and books and magazines and hymns of praise and worship that aren't just a repetition of bible verses, not to mention forums such as this and histories such as some of the Bible is based on, like the book of Jasher.


----“Logic! Why don't they teach logic at these schools?" Professor Kirke in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe

 

[Squeaky]

If what you said (in yellow, above) is true, then all the rest of what you said is not only unnecessary, but it's your own imagination, and therefore is antithetical to both your premise, and your interpretation.

The fact that you felt the need to interpret what was in God's Word (since God's Word by itself wasn't enough) is logically contradictory to saying that God's Word is all that's needed.

And, finally, your question raises a dichotomy that was as false in Jesus' day (since he actually told to people to believe in Him) as it was in Paul's day (since he actually preached to people), and as it is in our day. 1 Cor 1:21b ...it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe...

What's more (despite my "finally" in the previous paragraph ), your premise will have destroyed all speech and books and magazines and hymns of praise and worship that aren't just a repetition of bible verses, not to mention forums such as this and histories such as some of the Bible is based on, like the book of Jasher.

I said
lolol I get one like you every once in a while. I used to just post the revelation, and people got all upset with me because I didn't post a commentary. They wanted to know what I see. So I abliged them. And I pick up a critic like you every now and then that wants to criticize that. There are so many intellectual idiots out there that are never happy. So if your not one of them how about me just posting a revelation and you tell everyone what it says.


John 6:63
63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.
Rev 2:16
16 'Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.
1 Cor 2:4-5
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
1 Cor 2:6-7
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
Matt 13:10-11
10 And the disciples came and said to Him, "Why do You speak to them in parables?"
11 He answered and said to them, "Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
Matt 13:13-14
13 "Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.
14 "And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, and seeing you will see and not perceive;
1 Cor 14:10
10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance.
1 Cor 14:7-8
7 Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played?
8 For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare himself for battle?
Rom 8:27
27 Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
James 3:17
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
Matt 13:16-17
16 "But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear;
17 "for assuredly, I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.
Matt 13:18-19
18 "Therefore hear the parable of the sower:
19 "When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside.
Mark 4:14
14 "The sower sows the word.
John 14:26
26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
John 3:34
34 "For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
John 3:33
33 "He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.
Eph 1:9
9 having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself,
2 Cor 5:5
5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
2 Cor 5:7
7 For we walk by faith, not by sight.
2 Cor 5:10-11
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.
11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are well known to God, and I also trust are well known in your consciences.
Matt 4:4
4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"
Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

 

[Derf]

I said
lolol I get one like you every once in a while. I used to just post the revelation, and people got all upset with me because I didn't post a commentary. They wanted to know what I see. So I abliged them. And I pick up a critic like you every now and then that wants to criticize that. There are so many intellectual idiots out there that are never happy. So if your not one of them how about me just posting a revelation and you tell everyone what it says.


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19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

My point, which no doubt makes sense only to intellectual idiots like myself, was that you are asking us to do what you don't agree with--to take someone else's words along with God's Word. And now you reply saying you want more of that? Of course I don't need to give my interpretation of scripture to YOU, as you already said you won't listen to what anybody else says about scripture. Case (and mind) closed!

 

[Squeaky]

My point, which no doubt makes sense only to intellectual idiots like myself, was that you are asking us to do what you don't agree with--to take someone else's words along with God's Word. And now you reply saying you want more of that? Of course I don't need to give my interpretation of scripture to YOU, as you already said you won't listen to what anybody else says about scripture. Case (and mind) closed!

I said
lolol Case and point. You cant do it, so if I am willing to put a commentary to help you out. Why do you get all intellectual on me with human wisdom? All I'm doing is demonstrating the Holy Spirit for a example.


1 Cor 2:1-5
1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
(NKJ)

 

[Derf]

I said
lolol Case and point. You cant do it, so if I am willing to put a commentary to help you out. Why do you get all intellectual on me with human wisdom? All I'm doing is demonstrating the Holy Spirit for a example.

Not if you're speaking antithetically with yourself. The Holy Spirit wouldn't demonstrate that.

Just so you know, I appreciate a good commentary, and I don't think you need to avoid it, unless your premise is that it's not scriptural-then it's worse than superfluous.

(And the phrase is "case in point", as any intellectual idiot would know.)

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[Squeaky]

Not if you're speaking antithetically with yourself. The Holy Spirit wouldn't demonstrate that.

Just so you know, I appreciate a good commentary, and I don't think you need to avoid it, unless your premise is that it's not scriptural-then it's worse than superfluous.

(And the phrase is "case in point", as any intellectual idiot would know.)

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I said
You are very intellectual and I have never met an intellectual who knew the Holy Spirit. How could you know what the Holy Spirit would demonstrate or not.
I guess the case and point proves I'm not an intellectual idiot. Christianity is the one place that being smart hurts one more than helps them.

1 Cor 1:26-29
26 For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.
27 But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty;
28 and the base things of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,
29 that no flesh should glory in His presence.
(NKJ)

1 Cor 1:19-21
19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
20 Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
(NKJ)

 

[Lon]

There are so many intellectual idiots out there that are never happy. So if your not one of them how about me just posting a revelation and you tell everyone what it says.

Do you remember your grades in school? Remember how low they were?

Sometimes I can only shake my head at you, Sque[a]k. :idunno:

 

[Squeaky]

Do you remember your grades in school? Remember how low they were?

Sometimes I can only shake my head at you, Sque[a]k. :idunno:

I said
Mostly D.s.

 

[ok doser]

I said
Mostly D.s.

but you figured out how to use bible software and cut and paste


good for you! :first:

 

[Squeaky]

but you figured out how to use bible software and cut and paste


good for you! :first:

I said
lolol What is cut and paste? Are you talking about the Holy Spirit quoting verses to me in my mind?

 

[Derf]

I said
You are very intellectual and I have never met an intellectual who knew the Holy Spirit. How could you know what the Holy Spirit would demonstrate or not.
I guess the case and point proves I'm not an intellectual idiot. Christianity is the one place that being smart hurts one more than helps them.

Oh, I AM an idiot. I thought your OP was trying to say that using FALSE logic is stupid. Now I see that you were saying that using ANY logic AT ALL is stupid. I must have stumbled onto the wrong thread. I admit my error and will try to bow out gracefully.

:carryon:

 

[Squeaky]

Oh, I AM an idiot. I thought your OP was trying to say that using FALSE logic is stupid. Now I see that you were saying that using ANY logic AT ALL is stupid. I must have stumbled onto the wrong thread. I admit my error and will try to bow out gracefully.

:carryon:

I said
What I was saying is this. To be a Christian one must purge their carnal mind and intellect to hear the Holy Spirit. Then they can learn from the Holy Spirit.