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Absolutely there will be a rapture, and it can’t be much longer from what I’m seeing in this world today.

This has been a great thread, Nick. I would like to mention Rev. 19:13, where His name is called the Word of God. I can’t remember who mentioned it being His name, but thought it should be noted.

I'm wondering what would happen if the Lord didn't come. Satan certainly seems to be in control of this world, at the moment. Artificial Intelligence, lawlessness abounding, and all the other signs that are increasing with each passing day. There seems to be a great battle for the souls of men.

Don't try to heap any shame on me. It simply won't stick. I went fishing for your point, remember? "Maybe you just disagree, but maybe it's because you're confident church will be gone (raptured), and the prophecies concerning the last days pertain to Israel and not the church? ";)

It doesn't sound like you're too interested in prophecy....am I wrong? Maybe you just disagree, but maybe it's because you're confident church will be gone (raptured), and the prophecies concerning the last days pertain to Israel and not the church?

Don't you find it interesting that Israel is central in the Bible, that they disappeared as a nation for hundreds of years, and then returned, worshipping the same God in the same way, and speaking the same language that they always have?

We are so close to the end, we're about to fall off the edge. It's to the point where we can't believe anything we see, and less of what we hear. If the unbelievers aren't suspecting something big is up, they're under some strange delusion.

Those verses are not referring to a resurrection of individuals, but to the nation itself. In fact it seems to be speaking of the entire event, from their scattering to their being gathered together, then comes the tribulation, before anyone is resurrected (except the church). it takes us...

Of course God is with the nation of Israel, even when they've been in exile for hundreds of years. Even when He, Himself, scattered them. The People of Israel consider themselves descendants of Abraham and heirs according to the promise. The fact remain, we are in the last days and Israel...

I see no evidence supporting what you are accusing me of.

What Partition are you talking about?

Ah, that's good to hear. Lots of things are going on in my mind these days, but I'll try not to see bullying where it doesn't exist. The fact that we seem to disagree about what we're reading seems a bit odd, though.

Of course I read what you said, but what you said did not match up with the Prophecy. I think you mean I won't give in to the bullying tactics you fellas are portraying. That much is quite true.

I'm so sorry. I'm not able to keep up, but I did have this thought. When did Ezekiel write his letter? Surely before 1948 when Israel was "born in a day".

It's a picture shown to Ezekiel. The bones stood for the whole house of Israel as they were scattered....dry. Then, in the vision, the form takes place.....which is what we're seeing today. They won't be filled with the Spirit until they accept their Messiah. This vision is being revealed...

Brilliant, I must say. I'm beginning to remember some of those arguments. Most of them, IMO, seemed to be like "performing" on a debate stage. I guess I'll need to wait and see about Hoping. LOL

I'll be honest. I'd be lost. Did you notice how I did that?

Sorry, Tam. I sure messed that up,

God always takes Israel back, and He's using this very return in 1948 (that whole thing was a miracle, by the way). Yes, they are still rejecting their Messiah, which is why they're looking to set up the Temple as soon as possible. But God will use the Jews 144,000 to witness to the nations...