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It is done every day, there are plenty people in threads asking Open Theism to ante up on important questions and concerns. I've seen a small few move to Open Theism on here, but they were headed that way before they came. It means, literally, only an Open kind of mind is going to buy into...

Er, no, else you mean 'the Father is separate from Jesus Christ. Shore up your theology, please. Assertion. Save 'blasphemy' for another day, that isn't what I believe. Starry Night isn't sentient nor made in Van Gogh's image. See what I mean? Look to people that actually 'can' think out...

Where is your starting point to assert this? If man comes from and is sustained by God, how then can you assert that something that came from God, in the first place, is not part of His being and nature in the first place? Did God NOT make man in His own image? I'm trying to get you to go...

Good. Don't need to. Scripture is its own proof whether an Open Theist likes it or not. Most Christians give me a hard time for even talking to you guys. Scripture ALONE for the win! Not your or anybody else's 'want this to be true.' Colossians 1:15-20. You are CLEARLY wrong. Let "me"...

Depends what you mean. He is wrong on so much, I don't know that you 'can' hammer on it. A screw takes a screwdriver...

It illustrates the limitation of our conversations that can never go any further. You are silly, of course, to take ANY lack (real or more often imagined in your case) as if it is the quintessential mark of being a pastor or not. You simply don't have the credentials, Clete, your own...

It RATHER said "I change not lest..." Don't go beyond scripture. Read above. It is BECAUSE His nature DOESN'T change! It SAYS so! You are compensating. Simply read and understand the CLARITY of scripture! Yep. Read it again, several times. "I the Lord, DO NOT CHANGE lest...!"...

Yep Incorrect, you are simply voicing the limit of your comprehension at this point. You literally, cannot have 'time' with an eternal nonbeginning. You just aren't grasping the logical significance. You are in a small company, I think, of people who cannot grasp metaphysical concepts...

1) You receive an almanac from the future (easier to discuss certain foreknowledge without convolution). 2) It says it rains on March 2nd in Seattle. Proposition before proof: Does it prove it cannot help but rain on March 2nd in Seattle? Or does it merely record what 'did' happen...

Presupposes 'free' without definition as well. A 'culpable' will is what he/she is driving at, a will that cannot do otherwise). It cannot. My wife and I could answer simultaneously (have done so in the past), etc. etc. The law of exclusive middle is forfeit imho, it is all thus...

"Arminian" An Armenian is of German heritage if I remember correctly. I cannot remember who corrected me about 20 years ago here on TOL. In the way that Jesus Christ is the same, yesterday, today, and forever, we'd mean in His character, there never was a change. As far as 'flesh' it...

Or four-fold It is a matter of motive, but sometimes even good 'intention' but inept, is an awkward thing. It is why I get hung up on 'good' even if the guy had good intentions. Clete, isn't it still possible, that with good intent, ill can come from it? If so, how do we reckon 'good?'...

Thank you I believe we've talked about immutability in the past along this line. Open Theists agree God doesn't change in essential nature. If you mean 'Greek' philosophical versions, I believe they served a good purpose in furthering discussion, but of course they were wrong. They...

It 'can' be, but what if when swinging the hammer, I hit a friend's hand instead of the nail? Isn't such a case of 'good and bad?' (You hit on this in a second and I agree with you -▼ your plow verse and analogy)▼ sorry for the bad puns (unintentional at the time, but brought a smile in...

If Marke is like me, it'd be a question of their purpose for being/showing 'good.' Question: If it isn't from a pure person, is 'good' arbitrary at that point? If someone has a wicked father who happened to provide $ for Christmas one year, was he 'good' to the child? I sometimes do...

Actually, I appreciate both of your points here: I recognize the 'tender mercies' of the wicked that are cruel: a lot of times, the unbeliever tells me that the 'tender mercies of God' are cruel (and why, they say, they don't believe). Proverbs often gives comparison, Hebrew was often...

I'll start here with an important point: Good is simply 'good' because 'good' seeks the well being of another. It is the definition. While it is awkward to try and prove such in philosophy, we just embrace it at that point. While I've said God alone is the Arbiter, that doesn't mean we...

Awkward. It pits a characteristic 'against' the Being possessing the attribute, as such, it causes, if you will, perhaps a false dilemma THUS provides for the proof of something already assumed. I don't believe these are exclusive. However, such already allows 'omni's' into the discussion...

Incorrect, it leads to moral absolute. An absolute is NOT up to discussion! JR! It isn't! (you say wrong, but I really have to wonder if we are communicating, because at the end of this we are in agreement, it means we are just correcting 'wording' if I grasp our conflict. Like most times...

Not particularly, from this explanation: This physicist discusses it more intelligibly than I've seen others and he has a lot of basic primers that are akin to my grasp (it is how I understand and grasp physics).