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Patience. From experience, "yes, if I'm not Mid Acts, a LOT of this I am (was) dense on." I believe I've finally grasped this from you and Clete and actually appreciate what you are saying. It took awhile. "Stupid" is okay but a horse-pill hard to get down. Do you have one of these...

Culminating with Megiddo, the annihilation and dispersion of Israel? Meh, I'm okay with the disagreement. I 'think' I'm picking up where you are headed so I don't think it pertinent. I believe the context strongly supports the take, so if you want to discuss it out ask but I believe at this...

Thank you, actually good information for grasping what Mid Acts is, and what Mid Acts isn't. Appreciate it. I'm following so far, and yes, Calvinistic, but I have no problem with that. I've been labelled a Calvinist and a Mid Acts theologian specifically because of theology that agrees...

:applaud: (I'm going to cut some) True Derf, you've made a mistake. As nice as I can say, you've made a blunder in your use of terms. An 'argument from silence' is fairly specific. Derf: I've made a few mistakes. It was either Right Divider or Judge Rightly that corrected my use of...

Meh, sorry, I'd hoped I might 'help' rather than hinder. Such was my desire but I've been working overtime, forgive the distraction. I'll just read it for a bit and get what you want me and others to get from the thread. I in NO WAY meant to hijack (at least when I'm awake, that's true)...

The question is, does God ever give one person one direction, and another a different direction? For instance, was Hosea told to marry a woman of ill-repute? Was Israel proper told not to do so? If so, THAT is an example of a 'contradiction' as that 'one person is told specifically one...

Yes, am aware. Granted I've not really looked at Mid Acts before last year, but I have this part down. All I was saying is that He'd been telling the disciples He was going to die. Agree, why I said "except Jesus" there. Right but you read it with me in Chapter 16, Peter took Him aside and...

Same book: Matthew 21From that time on Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests, and scribes, and that He must be killed and on the third day be raised to life. 22 Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke...

Kingdom, then and perhaps included "Death Burial Resurrection." Jesus certainly had this in mind. Disciples were very caught up in the Jewish Kingdom and coming of Messiah and had a difficult time grasping what He was telling them. You are not alone on the full spectrum of...

The spread of the gospel and its consequences as well as the violence amped at this time in Rome (If I'm understanding your 'what' correctly). Matthew 24:13 But the person who endures to the end will be saved. That's a promise of comfort. Mat 24:34 I tell you the truth, this generation will...

Specifically the disciples/apostles enduring persecution and not to worry because they are going to be saved, though they are killed? It seems to me, a promise of comfort for 'this *(that) generation.' He said it wouldn't pass away until it had seen all of it.

Agree. Because it does 'simply' say 'kind' of faith, as in "Can this kind of faith save him?" Otherwise, even if I 'were' Mid Acts, I'd have a hard problem with James counteracting what Paul says: "NOBODY is,was,ever shall be saved by keeping the works of the Law." You make a point last...

I'm not sure it needs an answer. It is rather, what do I agree with and where am I different from any other Mid Acts theologian? When I first came to TOL in 2004, I wasn't as solid on my own theology, kind of ecumenical with good training but no experience field yet to hammer out my...

Prior to sin, she'd never have seen it that way nor known it that way. Thank you for this dialogue btw. I appreciate you. Ask? You were, if someone is 'taken care of' that's love. My kids came home from the hospital EXACTLY this way! My kids couldn't move away and frankly didn't...

Have you changed any of your minds? 🤔 Asking for a friend :D

Haven't thought about it much, but seems legit "appointed 'once' to die" came to mind reading your response. Any other scriptures in mind on this one? (off topic so ignore if appropriate)

Matthew 19:17 “Why do you ask me concerning what is good?” answered Jesus. “There is only One who is good. Keep the commandments if you want to enter life.” Yet Paul says no one received eternal life by keeping the law, it is the whole argument of Galatians and much of Romans. His comment...

Before or after sin? You'd say it doesn't matter but I'd disagree. Next, you are describing love as if it were not connected to action. I don't reckon love that way, I reckon that if I went into a house, all and every need was taken care of from that moment, I'd know I was loved. It...

Yes until the last line. God the Father isn't tempted yet IS praiseworthy so the equivocation needs work. It is a platitude that isn't true demonstrably. The Father cannot love? Spirit? This second conclusion also needs a rethink. Wholly disagree. I know of no scripture that says love...

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