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I'm not sure you do disagree completely: At this point, it is actually definitions categorized differently. I 'think' the only thing we are really disagreeing on is not so much the definition, but how each plays in the definition. In this case, I believe 'action' is the carrier of love. As...

Wasn't easy to hear. Wise as serpent/gentle as doves. "Do not resist an evil man." As I'd read scripture, see more just below. This hurt back then. You'd placed all of my work in a church on a rejection slip. I 'was' a good pastor (carpentry now, I make more $ at it and had to care...

When we first discussed in 2016 "Is God Moral?" we actually ended on the same page so I'm going to apologize for this a year ago. I forgot we left agreeing. That being the case, this likely is just because we start on a project thinking differently. Put in place of 'logic'' math. Math is...

Russians don't like losing (reason for the war in the first place, they lost the coop to have a dictatorship): https://www.britannica.com/event/2022-Russian-invasion-of-Ukraine

ESPECIALLY if you missed the point o,O

LOL, television, that's funny right there! I'm not sure 'long' does anything to add or detract from the question: Were they made 'loving?' Interesting point with no children. It couldn't have been long. Did Adam 'love' Eve? That IS the argument. Did Adam have a 'choice' to love Eve...

It doesn't matter. We don't fight against someone 'when they are right.' That just becomes double-minded. It is better to 'NOT' get involved in such a thread because your message becomes "I'm against the message of the film" by association of unbalanced objection. Follow: I see a movie by...

Yep Even 'if' an exception (did I post enough to suggest it isn't?), it yet illustrates that God did/does give 'different' (I think a little less confusing than 'contradictory' for discussion?) directions to different people. Another example: Isaac. Definitely an enigma to ask anybody to...

Except you and it had me at "hello!" I'm shocked a system can go this indepth in discussion already! My latest: Voice recognition soft war and spill checkers are way I no rob aughts are not going too tack over the world anytime sune Somewhat irenic, isn't it? I wonder if you could talk...

Surprisingly Christ-honoring:

Lol, I noticed BUT 1) I do it too AND it is usually JR that points it out! He's also a grammar nazi! (I actually appreicate the corrections because it also bugs me too) meh, we aren't perfect. I've come to also not get to hung up on some theology misapprehension. 2) I want to be 'right'...

Ouch, it hurts. Ouch.

🆙 Clete, Specifically this: Not the 'intellect' part, I agree, rather the 'choice.' I do also agree with you qualified. Perhaps JR wants me to get a second opinion. We in sin have choice. Prior, in the Garden, I believe Adam loved completely and well 'before' he ate of the tree of...

Yikes! Romans 10: 14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of...

A couple more that need to be address whether I follow above or not: The tree rather represented knowledge of good and evil, specifically the difference between the two. Adam loved up 'until' the point He 'chose', not prior. He didn't just 'choose' not to eat, there was no desire. He...

I've been in general agreement with Clete on this: God can do anything BUT if you mean "would that be consistent with His character?" then: "Good point. God in 'ability' can easily unmake us. 'God in His being, would/could He annihilate man?' and I might have to side with you." Will...

Or vise versa, it literally is this: An argument from silence is a argument based on the absence of evidence. I said 'if' Derf felt that your argument had 'nothing' to do with the passage, he may have a point. Don't get cocky and read. I wasn't even talking to you! (Still love you, you...

Maybe Clete has inside information, ever think about that! You don't know! :p (possibly died in Turkey, hanged but....)

It'd show you understand what an argument from silence is, but didn't he give you scripture? Perhaps I see Derf's point if he is saying 'these scriptures have nothing to do with what you are asserting, you are effectively arguing an idea nowhere in scripture." 🤔 How important to the...

"Morality" has confusing definitions (man-centered, one of a definition of man's values as central, also the reason I had a hard time with 'morals' relating to God in Clete's thread a bit ago). Regardless, there is no moral problem with not giving choice. Follow please: Jesus prayed "not...