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  1. Lon

    That's incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial, impassible, impeccable, and immutable! - Oct 23 2023

    I think I can appreciate that, but is it necessary at that point? Clete rightly says we are delving into depths of His love so I'm not sure that it 'has'' to be like I'm seeing, it seems that choice is part of love, but not its definition. All this an attempt to make a 'better' definition...
  2. Lon

    That's incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial, impassible, impeccable, and immutable! - Oct 23 2023

    It is still haunting my rational mind: I 'love' (am drawn toward) vanilla. I don't really believe I have a choice nor does it make a whit of difference to an accuracy (granted on the most superficial of love descriptions). Isn't this rather talking about 'freedom' rather than 'love?' 🤔...
  3. Lon

    What and who did Paul preach?

    Not sure if this passes for what is asked for: Act 9:4 And falling to the ground, he heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” Act 9:5 And he said, “Who are you, Lord?” And he said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. Act 9:6 But rise and enter the city...
  4. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Is one of those that you cannot sail to the edge and touch the glass dome?
  5. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Not until I watched the first video Judge sent in thread *one has to know all the ins/outs of discussion so a lot of people on this particular aren't going to be 'all caught up.' I'd have been lost if I hadn't watched that first video, had no idea.
  6. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    LOL, you are not going to be making friends. It'd be WAY better if you said clearly: "Gravity doesn't exist, therefore has no power" (nobody ever says that :Z). So follow: I tell you gravity exists but is not a force. I tell you gravity and general relativity are the same thing (I...
  7. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Or did you mean Newton? I think he did really well with the limitations of observation. I suppose a lot of outdated stuff makes the ancients look idiotic compared to today's innovations?
  8. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Every instance I've read that suggest gravity is not a force, also says gravitational fields don't exist (no such thing as gravity). If scientists were word-masters, they'd expedite learning and accuracy by cutting out the superfluous and simply saying "Gravity doesn't exist therefore is not a...
  9. Lon

    My First Interesting Interaction With ChatGPT

    Clarifying question as I'm following: If the algorithm is written reflecting the values of the programmer, could the interaction with AI, then become a wrestling with principalities, powers, and ruling prevailing thoughts of this age and reflect the wickedness of spiritual hosts, a secondary...
  10. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Who, the guys the wrote those articles? Idolater who acquiesced? Me supporting 'emergent' force? What made you the expert? How did you get this brilliant? Can you prove the point? Can you put it in laymen's language that anybody can get it? If not, then you need to rework the...
  11. Lon

    That's incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial, impassible, impeccable, and immutable! - Oct 23 2023

    Not the point I'm aiming at. I'll try again in a moment but as simply as I know how to say this: I've asked whether 'choice' is a necessity for love to exist (that's the whole of this endeavor inquiry, nothing else, though I acquiesce the need for discussion because we 'do' choose and it...
  12. Lon

    The Sound of Freedom

    It'd be like a Democrat, coming to a Republican human aid summit, being so anti-Republican that he 1) cannot focus on the good being done and 2) doesn't take it back to the Democrats, writes an article or stands up during the summit and condemns the summit! Tar and feathering at least, that'd...
  13. Lon

    A little comedy break....

    Yes, I remember that class. ZZZzzzz
  14. Lon

    The Sound of Freedom

    Not at all. I think it odd that Brits do. It truly shows a HUGE disconnect, are they incapable, other than attaching to what is insignificant, of grasping a larger concept, a 'reason' for making a movie like this in the first place? Was reading a bit from the Guardian because I'm genuinely...
  15. Lon

    The Sound of Freedom

    A couple of these: Now this guy IS this bad. Because it 'looks' like it was you on an initial read without look, it 'can' point directly back to you and in any inordinate amount that you 'like' what you are quoting, it is problematic, like bashing a pretentious Salvation Army santa for having...
  16. Lon

    The Sound of Freedom

    Listen: If I didn't know you, I would have thought, from your initial posts, you were! Insulting? Agree! It'd be insulting and you NEVER want to be seen that way. Unjustified? Can I do a few initial quotes of yours in thread from you? They did not look good AB. Didn't JR feel he...
  17. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    Incorrect. Gravity describes 'how' things interact. "How things interact" is the definition of 'force.' You can say Gravity isn't just a force ala https://www.universetoday.com/108740/how-we-know-gravity-is-not-just-a-force/ If you read there, 'gravity warps' (a force). Also read here...
  18. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    I think he was 'being clever' that balloons (he neglected 'helium'), clouds, gases, birds, airplanes, aren't affected by gravity. Or are they? Does rain, rain up? 🤔 Can an unmoving cloud or airplane or bird remain in the sky (no, other forces are 'defying' gravity)? Our atmosphere (1...
  19. Lon

    Can a Christian lose their salvation

    "No True Scotsman!" Simply because: 1Jn 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they were of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out so that it might be revealed that they were not all of us. Very clear, if they do, they weren't. This particular...
  20. Lon

    The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II

    He didn't. He agreed with you and said it couldn't be. While you both agreed, 'how' it applies to need or not need a flat earth is important. It'll further along your conversation if you recognize you and he 'agreed.' That was the 'ouch.' As a preliminary, if you are standing on the...
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