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Okay, help me out then ( I'm open to it being wrong). 1) Adam and Eve, in the Garden are created 'good.' 2) They have a directive not to eat of the tree (I don't believe the complication "or even touch it" needful for this part of discussion) .: ) Because they are good, and as beings made...

Just the opposite. Correct. You didn't 'defeat' my statement, you proved it! Only God can (and does) declare Himself as self-authenticator. Insomuch as we are in Christ, He authenticates Himself...and us. He does. Because you think, at times, shallowly, two-dimensionally and then jump...

Colossians 1:16-18 John 15:5 Philippians 2:13 Acts 17:28 Because you think so? You are setting yourself up for a problem to 'your' logic. Wouldn't it have been better to ask, or are you this self-assured? If you won't (by declarative) listen, is there a point? Never-the-less I'll give...

Not at all, why? Because 'assumptions.' For one, Evil isn't an entity. Does it exist 'inside' of God's universe? Of course (but it isn't an entity, it is a deprivatation, a lack). Prove it wrong, and please try and think before assumptions (you've a good mind and I generally think...

Which is mind boggling and surreal in a thread entitled "Abortion is Evil!" If it were retitled it'd have to be 'Abortion isn't evil, until...' Or "Partial birth Abortion is Evil!" Reading the thread, ever with the title in mind, there is a profound, bewildering, disconnect.

Was just talking to a former TOL member who asked for biblical proof that harm to the fetus is a sin. This particular scripture is incredibly clear.

The problem with any justification, is it sets the clock back to allowance. There is an inequity in the comparison of justifiable against criminals vs justifiable against the innocent unborn. I don't want to see a day where a 12 year old who takes a morning after pill, is sent to a...

We are today under sin, so James is correct (obviously). Huge difference. There was no 'fall' without the serpent in the Garden.

It is a logical paradigm: If 'all things' come from God Colossians 1:16-18, then 'becoming flesh' is already from Him inclusive in all things. Perhaps, in my thinking, it'd be a better OV tack to simply say "the universe didn't exist at one time" therefore is a 'new' thing. The logical...

Love this! Let me see if I can expand on this so it makes a bit of larger contextual sense. Let me begin here: Genesis 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Psalm 33:9 He spoke and it came into existence. Logos then, is (and I think I agree, impotently to a degree)...

For me, 'freedom' is and always has been an assumption and desire that enters the conversation as a preconceived notion and granted truth. I question it, simply because my mind works this way at the fall of man. The obtained autonomy came by disobedience. Prior to that, there was no such...

Ah, good call! One gets the idea 'miss Tommy' had a botched surgery and has a LOT of angst about it!

Woke transgender angry at being called 'sir' set self up for a cancelled flight: Moderator edit: The following image is a tranny. View at your own risk. https://www.yahoo.com/news/tommy-dorfman-accuses-delta-employee-124726323.html Just don't call him 'sir!'

Of course, and the irony!

Jewish slavery was more like 'indentured servant.' They were released every 7 years.

Well "wholly" was too strong, a reaction to those who would say "freewill autonomy" is a gift from God, it was the result of sin and disobedience. Judge Rightly argued well that they had to 'be able not choose the tree' per the direction. It means they were made capable of not doing so, but I...

A very merry and blessed Christmas!

Agree, liked it too.

Scenario that came to mind last night as I've been contemplating this discussion: A boy has a servant that takes care of him, the boy asks why do you do all this for me. The servant says "Because your parents instructed me to do it." The boy asks "do you like doing this?" The butler says...

Agree, but was testing it on the road before learning to drive so to speak: Can I say I 'love' vanilla? Not only that, it seems pretty egocentric. Love is 'other-centric' as far as my working definition. Agree. I'm never talking about 'choice not involved' just how/if it is part of its...