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Nowhere in that passage does it say Faith/Believing isnt a work. Because believing is something a person does.

Is believing Faith a work ? Yes because its doing something, and consequently if a person must do something prior to God granting them Salvation, then its not to be considered Salvation by Grace, but the opposite, salvation by works. Thats to say, salvation is being rewarded based on something...

No its not, unless you mean the Spiritual Israel of God, which is the Church

Four things that concur, work together to the Predestinated according to scripture Truth Rom 8:29-30 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he...

The Gospel of God will lay emphasis on the application of Salvation, which is regeneration, new birth or quickening. This is the Spirits work upon the elect vessels of mercy, and in them, in sync, harmony with the Fathers Election of them, the Sons Atoning for them. 1 Pet 1:3 3 Blessed be the...

Im going to ask once more, according to Heb 1:3 what did Christ do before He sat down on the right hand of God ? 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on...

So again according to Heb 1:3 what did Christ do ? before He sat down ?

No it doesnt. And I know you would justify your behaviour by calling me a derog !

The Gospel of God will lay emphasis on the ground of Salvation, the Atoning Blood of Jesus Christ. This ground was relevant and connected to Gods Eternal Purpose in Election, in that in that Purpose He was slain from the foundation of the world Rev 13:8 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall...

I have put more work into this thread than anyone. So its a derogatory remark.

So now you calling me derogatory names ? Isnt that against the rules ?

The verse doesnt pose any problem to me, it evidently poses one to the one who brung it up. If it doesnt, what relevance does it have to Rom 3:11 and Rom 8:8

The Gospel of God will lay emphasis on the origin of Salvation, which is Gods Eternal Purpose of Election 2 Tim 1:8-9 8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; 9 Who...

You bought up Lk 7:30 and you want me to tell you what it means. Why dont you tell us what it means since you bought it up. Its a shame if you bring up a scripture and dont know what it means. Everything I bring up, I explain it.

There is no contradiction except in your apparent understanding. Rom 3:11 and Rom 8:8 are true no matter how many scriptures you quote.

Rom 8:8 doesnt change, they which are in the flesh cannot please God !

hoping Some wont, whom God is pleased to make Spiritual by the New Birth, but until and if God does this miraculous work, man remains a natural man.

Your answer is contrary to scripture, for the natural man doesnt seek after God, nor does he understand God. To take it a step further, the natural man who is in the flesh, he cannot please God period ! Rom 8:8 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

The thread is about the natural man doesnt seek God, not the True God, nor does he understand the True God.

Christ death is a saving death because those for whom He died, or suffered, it brings them to God. That means it effects conversion to God 1 Pet 3:18 18 For Christ also hath once suffered[or died] for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh...