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  1. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    Reread, I think you'll catch your mistake. Does He answer prayer? Wouldn't that be considered to be manipulation? In such instance, if we went back to our alternating current (plugged in AC) and direct current (batteries DC), it'd be akin to getting plugged in, if we went with the hands-off...
  2. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    :sigh: You said it, I accessed it. You don't have to jump to an appeal to mystery every time. Clete, I sincerely believe you've emoted in these last few conversations. Something going on in your life you are blaming me for? I believe you were irritated before you got here, some of this...
  3. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    The link says everything would fly apart, like an atomic bomb went off, if God stopped sustaining the universe by His power. Just the opposite of "not literal" -> Literal. Nehemiah: 9:6 "...and thou preservest them (all God has made) all..." It is ongoing 'literally.' Jeremiah...
  4. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Not the assertion. Let's take your disappointment and saying so. I have it on record that you said it 'now' as in 'the future' of when you said it. Does my definite knowledge do anything to your choice? No, we both agree. People 'think' that the future makes a difference and your...
  5. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    Nehemiah 9:6 Jeremiah 51:15,16 and see: https://answersingenesis.org/who-is-god/god-is-good/why-does-the-universe-continue-to-exist/
  6. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Thank you for your patience and long-suffering.
  7. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Disagreement notwithstanding? I disagree any way. Did you mean the logical conclusion (just thinking that accentuating the has the greater weight of what you are aiming for)? I'll leave response here and also tie back into my conversation with Clete on two premises: 1) That most are jumping...
  8. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    On the same page on this. See the post just above #725 for discussion
  9. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    All of the following is a discussion about EDF: What it does, and what it doesn't do with logical proofs and propositions: I was referencing a statement you'd made earlier. You'd said God is often above our paygrade as limited, created humans (my take). I was simply in agreement with you...
  10. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Seems pretty straight forward but there is no need to revisit a 'mormon' connection. Honestly, it wasn't intended to be a huge discussion point. I'm just puzzled by the fact that so many Open Theist theologians are in ongoing conversations specifically because it looks like 'commonalities.'...
  11. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Sustains Literally what 'consist, make to stand' means. I don't care to argue over the difference. Don't care frankly. You can be wrong or supposedly me. Not important if you grasp the meaning unless you have a pertinent point and I suspect nothing. Don't monkey see/monkey do. Such is often...
  12. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    I'll plead a bit on your former post that we cannot, as you rightly said, grasp all of who God is for one. Qualifying (2) is different between Open paradigms and the majority of the rest of Christendom. For this, because I and most of Christians believe the Omnis are very much beyond "Adam...
  13. Lon

    What is a Biblical dispensation?

    Saw this untouched for a month so thought I'd give it a bump. "Dispensation" isn't a word we use often, nor the synonyms: management, administration in theological discussion often. Dispensationalists generally mean: God has worked differently, with different people, at different times...
  14. Lon

    A little comedy break....

  15. Lon

    A little comedy break....

    Sorry, it was dad humor, but caught me off guard, so I laughed.
  16. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    Certainly 'in' pertaining to the topic, but no, wasn't in mind. Rather it is that I render all offerings 'in Him' to 1) acknowledge I'm a servant and need to bring all my conveyance under His watchful eye and 2) a bit of submission to my fellow man (you certainly) in humility. Only what God...
  17. Lon

    You won't see this on the news

    O.o and stinky!
  18. Lon

    Our Moral God

    This one?
  19. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Who gets to decide what is knowable for God? The term 'knowable' usually has a lot of qualifications from what Open Theists believe i.e. having just inklings of what is happening in Sodom and Gomorrah that He has to go see, not knowing where Adam is actually hiding. Because God is the...
  20. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    Something akin to panentheism or exactly that. Colossians 1:16-20 that I often repeat on TOL. Open ideas/paradigms, often come from thinking "God is inside of the universe." "Creation, Concept, Expression, Handiwork, etc. are all equated if I'm grasping his intent. "In Him we live, and move...
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