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  1. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Was revisiting in the other thread. There is a difference between 'morality' and 'absolute morality.' We 'tend' to think of morality as 'absolute' but it isn't until 'absolute' is placed as the qualifier (seems like the point of discussion to me).
  2. Lon

    What is a Biblical dispensation?

    You both defined οἰκονομos, not oikonomia oikonomia From G3623; administration (of a household or estate); specifically a (religious) “economy”: - dispensation, stewardship. Total KJV occurrences: 8 It 'breaks down' to those ideas, not necessarily forcing 'house-rules.' For instance...
  3. Lon

    What is a Biblical dispensation?

    What are the 7 dispensations? May answer your point as well. Doesn't have to, directly, but it starts it (although he asked for a definition and I gave one, so...). I saw a thread with one post and no discussion. With 11 posts, 'my' goal for entrance is met. I always start in threads...
  4. Lon

    What is a Biblical dispensation?

    "Require?" Point? That God distributes/dispenses/manages what He does differently? What is your objection? Perhaps another way to explain Dispensation is to say God was working 'parts' of a plan through history toward the gospel of Grace. In the same sense that any...
  5. Lon

    Our Moral God

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    Our Moral God

  7. Lon

    What Is Morality, and is it Absolute?

    I believe there are a few necessities/formalities necessary in preliminary: If you believe God always acts 'properly,' what do you mean by that? In the thread "Our Moral God" the problem is in definition and eye-of-the-beholder understanding of any given 'moral' idea. Some for...
  8. Lon

    Alcohol Science & the Bible Pt I, Jul 5 2024

    Good post. It is a tough discussion among believers. One 'dry' resort in my area went out of business bought up and now including wine in a health club setting. One doctor says alcohol is 'always poison' (linked is the idea that what doesn't kill you makes you stronger and live longer).
  9. Lon

    Is eternal suffering literal?

    2 Peter 1:20 Galatians 6:6 We may have the Spirit teaching us, but it must stand among the body of the wise. At any point I am alone on my scripture view, I post in fear and trepidation and generally "...for your inspection and ministry back to me, where I depart from the majority, with...
  10. Lon

    Is eternal suffering literal?

    Of course. Only in a crazy Open assumption (it becomes crazy upon inspection if well-meaningly wrong), does a child get left behind and has to go through that hell alone. I was abused. God was there. You sir, are irresponsible and negligent in your assumption. Please (please) don't...
  11. Lon

    what is the meaning of John 3:3 ?

    Ephesians 2:8-10 is talking about 'recreation.' Recreation and 'born-again' have a definite over-lapping expression of need: To be born of Spirit. 2 Corinthians 5:17 2 Corinthians 13:5 I'm not only a 'what is different' (Dispensational) persuasion. I also am looking at overlapping as...
  12. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Got Questions helped quite a bit "Ben-hadad" means 'son of the storm' and is applied as a title rather than specific name (like 'Pharaoh' in Egypt). Hazael killed Ben-hadad 2 if the information is correct, seems to be.
  13. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Especially Elijah being told to anoint Hazael as king 0.o Elisha's tears aren't over Hazael killing Ben-hadad, but the other atrocities he'd do as king 🤔 *There are oddities in these accounts that could use a good deal more thought. It is why I have not pushed back too hard...
  14. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    (1 Kings 19:15, 17 NKJV) Then the LORD said to him (Elijah prior to Elisha): “Go, return on your way to the Wilderness of Damascus; and when you arrive, anoint Hazael as king over Syria.” ... (17) “It shall be that whoever escapes the sword of Hazael, Jehu will kill; and whoever escapes the...
  15. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Note with me the progression: Hazael is sent by Ben-hadad to inquire. Hazael, hopeful Ben-hadad will die, is bothered and some of his schemes show on his face. Elisha starts crying. Hazael asks why, and Elisha is forward with information causing him and the Lord grief. Note that a...
  16. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Ah, I see where you were going further on point: That too isn't prophecy, but I do believe, with Clete that it is foreknowledge, with a departure between us on extent of foreknowledge respectively.
  17. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Meaning of the disease, yes? Not by disease but because Hazael was going to kill him if he didn't die of sickness. I don't believe 'spurring' but certainly the evil was loosened and the reason Elisha was crying. Hazael said "[Elisha] told me that thou shouldest surely recover." - Seems...
  18. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Awe, come'on Clete. You knew. I've been very clear I have been closely Amyraldian most of my life (not Catholic). What about you? Do you agree with any 5 points? 🤔 Which means I likely am not a Calvinist, right? My first disagreement this set: "Free" and 'bound' are so closely tied...
  19. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    That is a good question too, but one may say "I disagree with Calvin on any number of points yet am a Calvinist." If as I'm reading Clete, you cannot be a Calvinist if you disagree with Calvin, then there would be few actual Calvinists indeed. I believe I agree with you, that even if one...
  20. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Southern Baptists are an eclectic group because they are independent and follow the theology of their local pastor and at times, the elders. In the SBC you'll find Open Theists, Calvinists, Charismatics, Snake-handers etc. etc.
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