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  1. Lon

    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    Thanks. I think we are mostly on page. There are a few points of minor disagreement. Treat 2 Timothy 3:15 for me if you've the time and ty. As for 'wisdom,' it is different from reasoning. Proverbs 9:10; 19:7 For me on point: There is no wisdom that isn't God's. So we agree...
  2. Lon

    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    Uhhgg, if mine was unclear, so is yours here. You cannot have sound reasoning without "sound reasoning" instruction. The Fall left us in need of it. Not tracking. People have to read scripture to have sound reasoning. Without God's thoughts, there is no such thing. God is seen in...
  3. Lon

    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    I'm at a loss. Even you cannot mean that wisdom isn't God's. Explain please. I agree otherwise, my intent is to say God is working on us. You bet we need to study. If that's all, its onesided (my only point, not in disagreement with the former, but we are in a relationship that is...
  4. Lon

    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    Did you READ those verses? 1 Corinthians 2:14 says a man without God's Spirit cannot understand/accept God's wisdom. My point was that God is active in this world. We do our diligence but God is working on me. I'm not alone, neither are you else you'd be completely subject to your grade...
  5. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    All Latinos eat tacos. Generalization or exaggeration? Study. Ah, nice old-school comeback, overused do you think? 🤔 I know what my education and yours is. You are an intelligent guy but try not to be this audacious in your return assessments (change it up please)? They say more...
  6. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Huge difference between 'all things' with man and 'all things' with God. In your former, it is definitely implied "all things pertinent to this topic." I don't believe you can readily apply the same to God knowing all things. There is no context implied. Grammar ftw?
  7. Lon

    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    It depends on one's reading level, but reading scripture does cause sound reasoning. 2 Timothy 3:16 Isaiah 55:11. That said: Proverbs 4:7 in agreement.
  8. Lon

    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    No, not rambling at all. I appreciate your story. Another reason I ask is because it helps see where another is coming from, what motivations there are behind thoughts. Regardless of the stark differences between our theologies on one front, I do appreciate Mid-Acts teaching and...
  9. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Suggesting that Peter was given to exaggeration? 🤔 Anticipating this, I gave two other scriptures. If the Bible teaches "knows all things" and even in Open Theism: "Knows all things possible" it concedes these scriptures else even Open Theism would have absolutely no ground for "knows...
  10. Lon

    The Problem With Prayer

    Using the cancer analogy: I don't believe anybody is praying that God will take somebody with Cancer. In general, having the heart of God, I'd reckon those prayers are very much unified and in accord. T God is sovereign, always makes the best choices. Romans 8:28
  11. Lon

    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    My question stemmed from this and other articles. My first encounter with Open Theists was largely from the Charismatic churches. Later, when involved with Southern Baptists, Open Theism came up under council scrutiny. It seems there is a good number who came from Reformed circles (Derf...
  12. Lon

    How to respond to classical theists who dodge Open Theism arguments

    You've moved me on a couple of points. It is my objective in debate, not to 'change' but to plant and water because God gives increase. In order to move from my entrenched position, God has to challenge me through scripture. It has to be there where anybody will change so I urge 1)...
  13. Lon

    The Problem With Prayer

    Lamentations 3:37 Have to believe it. It is scripture. a) God's will is decretive and prescriptive, which do you mean? b) Changed? In His prescriptive will, we see Moses stepping in as mediator. Is this 'against' God's will? No of course not since He placed Moses in the first place...
  14. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    John 21:17 He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, “Do you love me?” and he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my sheep. Psalm 147:5 1 John 3:20 o_O!
  15. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    :nono: If you are told to 'be' perfect as your Heavenly Father, it intimates a standard (see below). Genesis 17:1; Matthew 5:48 Incorrect: From H8552; entire (literally, figuratively or morally); also (as noun) integrity (standard), truth (standard): - without blemish, complete, full...
  16. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Things are 'new' to us because we do not know everything. When God does a 'new' thing, in Isaiah, is it 'new' for Him or 'new' for us? Conveyance and context suggest 'to us' only, right? God already truly knew He was going to redeem mankind through His Son. Importance: We are trying...
  17. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    One was my professor o_O Clete, quit knee-jerk reacting like a little kid. This is just immature coming from you and a manipulation. I expect a LOT better. You have a brain. I like it, use it. If I have irritants, you certainly do too. I appreciate when you meet me halfway between...
  18. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    On the idea of 'new': Is something 'new' if it is made of Legos? Are Legos always precursor to 'original.' See the definition of 'new' just above. In what sense is anything 'new?' as in 'never existed before.' Anything Lego 'new' isn't exactly 'new' as in 'never been in existence...
  19. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    "New" needs definition. Solomon said 'nothing new.' Is his comment to be taken as all encompassing? It stimulates the mind to regard what is 'new.' Isaiah 43:19 https://biblehub.com/hebrew/2319.htm If Solomon is right, then how could God do something 'new' Isaiah 43:19. New...
  20. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Proverbs 16:9 Me too
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