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  1. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    I pared to here. It cannot be. We ARE created. All the information in you and me is written by God. Perhaps we are not yet tracking on analogy (not intending Metaphor because I don't know a lot about how we are created). The point is that 'like' a computer program, there is nothing...
  2. Lon

    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    Let me say, I'm not exactly Mid Acts, just that I've read quite a bit to this point and have good number of agreements. Point being, you may not be asking the right guy but a middle man may suffice. The divisions come from the changes in venue between Jews and gentiles in Acts and Paul's...
  3. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Agree. Why then the thought of 'robot?' Everything I am, even with the errors after sin, is there, whacked, but there because God made me. Sin is a 'messing' with what He created. Yes. I have the same ideology but try to recognize that I'm not an independent. I'm dependent which keeps...
  4. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    They must of (if you follow a moment): They were told not to eat of the tree in the garden (implied choice).
  5. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Again, that was 25 years ago. You and I are alike on the sentiment but... Emotions are life's indicators, like dashboard lights on your car. They are fine and work, if faulty at times but you have to get into the engine to know what's going on. God included feelings in our package so I'd...
  6. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Are you including that God created everything else as well, all those extra inputs? I'm not bothered about being a creation but appreciate God for what I have and the sense that I'm able to appreciate. I was made this way, nothing lacking in that.
  7. Lon

    Are you born again (John 3)? Take this test.

    It was mysterious to me at one time as well. It comes from the 'way' one reads the scriptures and with certain filters in mind, involved. "Born again" was something akin to 'born of the Spirit' today in scope, but they are saying that the passage has a narrower scope: Nicodemus and...
  8. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    So they didn't love before they sinned??? "We love 'because' He first loved us." LOVE makes love. "Waffle?" Nope. You are deifying yourself if you think you 'created' love. God did. If you have it, God made it. Why? I get the knee-jerk that you have to 'freely choose it' but it...
  9. Lon

    Do we have the inspired Word of God today?

    You know more about alchemy, and that not as much as you think, than you do the scriptures. It is a force upon the text. It is wrongheaded. There are books on #'s, patterns, and alchemy, they are incorrect. He told you: if it agrees with the context, well and fine if extrapolated and...
  10. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Understand your contention, but 'good' is in the eye of the Omni. Whatever He made would be 'good' in the sense that it reflects the perfect will of the Omnipotent because it'd follow His being and rules. What we call 'good' is a reflection of His values and intent, thus leads to...
  11. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Questions are to elicit answers from another's perspective. Of course I don't understand per say, hence...questions. This discussion is to 'help' me understand and hopefully give the other side's concerns. Let me float it this way: Almost all of us believe Omni. Enter an Open Theist...
  12. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Nor then, by extension, Omnicompetent if you follow the links and logic. Again, this does not mean omnicompetent then? Does Open Theism mean in the context of omnicompetent, He cannot lose unless He is competent to allow such? How is this not all-powerful, all-knowledgeable, and sovereign...
  13. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    The Septuagint which Our Lord Jesus read from, says "παντοκράτωρ" : All-potent is the meaning of El Shaddai. Fact.
  14. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    You didn't read the link? Maybe you missed the post? He gives the context for the assertion and the whys. Challenge accepted. Scripture is replete that God is all-powerful. "Nothing can thwart Thee, Nothing is impossible," etc. Scripture is so clear that God is omnipotent, that it is...
  15. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Consider their context a moment: God 'who is greater' knows all things. The sentence legitimately goes beyond hearts in that sentence. I see their point.
  16. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    All means all. Mighty means potent. The Hebrew is that clear.
  17. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    You aren't following: if one omni, all omnis. Way ahead of the conversation to be making value statements that don't apply. Prove them wrong. Engage the thread. Prove them wrong.
  18. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Digs notwithstanding, argue the points. It is a pointless discussion to have vitriol involved here. "Fraud" doesn't work. These are not my thoughts of origin. I concur with minds before me that logically, if one omni, then all. Almighty (Omni-potent literally) is a scriptural given...
  19. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Somebody just told me I don't listen... Somebody just told me I don't listen... Iron sharpens iron, no? You are an independent interpreter? I appreciate you, but even with you and I alone, we are not the sum of Scripture understanding and wisdom. I'm not saying I disagree on this point...
  20. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    LOL. Sounds oddly familiar. Why don't you understand that omni anything means omni everything? Let's try omnicompetent, an OV given with the chess analogy: If God knows all about chess, He knows every move possible (omniscient), has power to stop anything outside of the rules established...
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