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Agree. God knew, thus wasn't asking 'where?' for information, but to hold men accountable.

Well, 1) I've given an apology, please accept it. 2) I'd hope you can empathize on this: Something is in common with Mormons or else the major Open Theologians and authors wouldn't be doing Bringham Young (Boyd, Sanders, Pinnock, likely more minor players). That alone is intriguing...

For shooting around corners... (I know! "Random!)

A small request (maybe): If it is easy enough, could you snip a quote to post with these, or do a synopsis? This from the Twitter page:

"Sometimes" rather, (I appreciate irony but take the criticism as good, you are correct). No, I'm just a random. My mind goes 100 miles an hour and it evident. My first drafts are rarely gems. I did graduate an MA with a very high score, but had to really work at it. You were talking...

Omniscience is simply the term. "Knows all things" and "All Knowing" are interchangeable. While He has never sinned, of course He knows all the ins and outs of its actions and influence else we'd not be saved from it, right? Jesus was 'tempted in every way.' I don't believe...

Omnis come from the standpoint of 'all that is' isn't co-eternal with God. As humans, the universe is all we know but God is 'all' there is and much more than simply this piece of His creative work (universe) so the omnis are a way of trying to grasp God's statements: Almighty: Omnipotent...

Triune God: All physical analogies break down. "Spirit is indivisible" helps me begin to understand a Triune nature because as Father Son and Holy Spirit are/is Spirit, I can about manage to grasp Their/His Oneness. Propositions for your inspection: 1) It is uniquely true that Jesus...

(with a good heart) All on you. You just are not reading my mind and this paragraph is 100% of where my statement came from: I meant no 'guilty by association.' Reread: the statement was about 'who doesn't hold to omni's.' Next? I apologized, and I meant it but please don't look for...

Tired. Saying it is so regardless. :doh: All of those mean 'sustain.' You just like arguing to argue. You were wrong and you know it. Be changed by truth, don't entrench with your fingers in your ears. Don't be arguing 'just' to argue. There is no point to this dialogue or interjection.

Have a link? https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/blog/2010/01/20/mormon-thought-vs-ope-theism (yes, that David Paulsen LDS and that Clark Pinnock Open Theist) Important point: Don't be 'stupid' about it. If we hold something actually in common, I'll not be offended but will do the leg...

Sunisteo is where we get 'sustain.' You are literally wrong. Control and sustain aren't synonymous, if that was the hang up. Needs some definitions. What do you mean by 'force?' Example: 2 Corinthians 5:14-19 Love in this case, is a force, that God uses which 'constrains' (one form of...

God is the Originator of the entire universe. There is nothing in it that He is restricted from. You are missing my point. God is 'unable' to sin. What we were discussing were definitions and I yet believe 'limitation' carries problematic concerns. Is God 'limited' to only not sinning...

Intent is 3/4. A 'little' isn't even on the docket, but rather a difference and specifically who. If you believe 'like' a Mormon, that sir, is no ad hominem. It is rather a classification, like 'Calvinist' that draws the line in a marker again so it is understood that when you make an...

"How we got here" is helpful especially for those of us not Open Theists (me and the rest of Christianity). What did you believe before you became an Open Theist? How did you jump the hurdles? How big were they at the time? How resistant or ready were you upon hearing about Open Theism?

It is sad, envious, glorious news. We will all meet again: 2 Samuel 12:23

No. 2 Timothy 2:13 Not a 'limitation' however, as I understand one. Generally a limitation is 'short of a perfection,' an inability. God doesn't deny Himself because He is 'unable' but rather because He is consistently good (no darkness at all). It thus is not a limitation, but a...

I'm not sure it is part of this thread, but briefly the argument in theology circles is if God is Almighty, He logically can assert it as the only power source in and outside of existence (more than the universe). The argument: If One claims omnipotence, He is simultaneously claiming...

It is a guessed supposition based on an understanding. I've argued this a number of times on TOL: If I own an Almanac from the future, Lon has absolutely no power over anything that will happen. I was laughing at a joke by Nate Bargatze, He said if he were able to go back into the past, he...

Trying to figure out how it fits with His morality (thread). Ty Perhaps a different thread for discussion: For me, if one omni, all of them by definition and logic but answers a different thread than this one, unless I'm just not making the connection. I'm opposed to a limitation of any kind...